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Discussion in 'Rugby Discussion' started by Quick Hands, Mar 5, 2017.

  1. WorkingClassRugger Steve Williams (59)

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    There's no reason why a woman cannot have the same level of insight into what's happening on field during the game as her male counterparts. I thought the commentator for the Chiefs/Crusaders game was passable. Certainly no worse than the others. I was actually watching the Shute Shield game today and thinking how I'd like them to utilise Lou Ransom more from the sideline.
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  2. Dan54 Andrew Slack (58)

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    Really? You got a problem with women commentating? You poor bugger, I almost feel sorry for you!
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  3. Wilson Peter Fenwicke (45)

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    100%, the idea that a whole gender can't or shouldn't be commentating is idiotic, and it's this sort of thinking that sees us saddled with ex-players like Phil Kearns as commentators over people who have an actual talent for broadcasting and can promote the game.
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  4. KOB1987 Steve Williams (59)

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    I like the role you are talking about for Lou. I really like her and i’m not suggesting a woman can’t add as much if more more insight as the blokes to the commentary. What I was saying was having a female as the actual commentator during game play didn’t work for me. It might for others, didn’t for me though.
  5. Wilson Peter Fenwicke (45)

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    That is an incredibly sexist position to take.
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  6. KOB1987 Steve Williams (59)

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    Oh for fucks sake. If you lot are going to pull the sexist tag on me for saying it didn’t work for me then I’m out of here.

    Later.
  7. WorkingClassRugger Steve Williams (59)

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    I'm talking about using her as third commentator from the sideline. Not just reporting in the crowd or the weather.
  8. WorkingClassRugger Steve Williams (59)

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    I'm not calling you sexist. I just want to know why you think she added little to the game or didn't work?
  9. Wilson Peter Fenwicke (45)

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    The issue is not that it didn't work for you, it's that you wrote off a whole gender as commentators because the performance of one woman didn't work for you. How is that anything but sexist?
  10. Adam84 Ken Catchpole (46)

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    Excuse me, how did I prove myself wrong?

    You asked the question: "when did they say it was a priority for 2012"

    And I provided the quote from NZRU CEO: "As well, there is a huge desire to have a Pasifika team involved which we think will be massive for the competition, popular with fans and is a priority for us".
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  11. Dan54 Andrew Slack (58)

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    Naa fair enough I was being a smart arse , you said that Robinson said it a priotity in 2021 ( I got my numbers backwards) I was just correcting that:p.
    And I was asking where you got this from
    Well a clear example is New Zealand wanting Australia to regress by telling them they have to cut teams if they want to play in nzru’s comp in 2021.
    Tell me where it says that?:p

    No don't bother I know what I have heard and read and I know I have never heard a NZR person say Aussie must cut teams, we will just agree you got more sources than me.
  12. Highlander35 Paul McLean (56)

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    FEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEMALE

    That is all
  13. Rugbynutter39 Paul McLean (56)

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    "we need NZR to carry Aus on it's back" yes Dan that is the NZRU mindset which is why they are not the right persons to develop the game in the region and lack the vision of what someone like twiggy had for the region.

    It is about understanding what the region needs for level of maturity, population size, growth potential etc and what sort of model would best fit and NZRU would not have a clue what is required here.
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  14. WorkingClassRugger Steve Williams (59)

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    Tonight's game convinced me of two things. 1) is that SR Au should form the basis of a domestic structure moving into the future with perhaps the Drua/Lautui added for extra flavour. And 2) quality coaching is paramount and something we need to seriously invest in. Do that and games like tonight will became far more common place.
  15. KOB1987 Steve Williams (59)

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    I decided I'm not going to let the reaction to a throw away comment get in the way of my enjoyment of this forum. I'm just going to address the below and then move on from it, it's not really relevant to this thread anyway.
    It wasn't intended as a sexist comment and I apologise to those who read it as such and were offended. For whatever reason I didn't enjoy the commentary and that was the only thing I could identify that was different. Maybe she was just the wrong person for the job, but I'm neither going to lodge a formal complaint nor stop watching rugby because of it. It is what it is, the overall standard of commentary from both sides of the ditch is sub par at the moment anyway.
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  16. Dismal Pillock Tony Shaw (54)

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    Rikki Swannell, first time I heard her I found it a bit jarring but she knows her shit and she7s into it and is observant. Does take a wee bit of getting used to too for neanderthal drongos like me but after a game or two you adjust and now I'd actually rather have her over shrieking disdainful TJ or going-through-the-motions Nesbo or the stats drone aussie guy.
  17. Dan54 Andrew Slack (58)

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    No it's not NZR mindset,I said it (don't know if you noticed but I not NZRU) I being sarcastic and pointing out how you keep saying NZ has to release players etc to make Aus competitive, when I believe they can do it themselves.
  18. Dan54 Andrew Slack (58)

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    Yep fair enough KOB, I was one that reacted when you first posted it, pobably because I was hoping you were being a old fashioned sexist, and I tended to be accused of that by my wife when I made comments when women first started commenting;):p But I actually find the women doing it all seem pretty clued up on the game, and most in NZ anyway are players and been pretty good ones, the ones here I find good too , all seem to know the game. Which is main thing I want from and TV crew.
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  19. Rugbynutter39 Paul McLean (56)

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    Dan I will make the final point on this and try really hard to avoid discussing further - yeh I think we need more free flowing of players to ensure better distribution of players across the region for those teams involved in any cross border competition to establish better and stronger footprints across the region. NZ at this point got more depth so lets use that to help establish better and stronger footprints across the region (in teams that may join whether PI or oz teams) so create stronger competition in short term whilst relevant unions invest in grass roots to catch up long term where they can better sustain this themselves.

    NZ needs a stronger regional footprint as can't financially sustain its own competition with its own teams and Australia struggles as well because of competition with other codes. Spread the talent which means more pathways for NZ players and better strong footprints, better competition, more broadcast and investment dollars for all. Lot more could say about it but won't as these threads get repetitive - but I just see win win for all. I think twiggy could see it with his proposal that any oz players who play for GRR teams should represent the wallabies (which RA knocked back but now showing more open to this for Trans Tasman Competition if what media reporting is correct).

    I am banning myself from discussing anything more about Trans Tasman competitions anymore until something comes out as this whole thread becoming very circular.
  20. Dan54 Andrew Slack (58)

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    Yep fair enough mate, I know where you coming from, it just something I against , we will agree to disagree, I know we both want what we think is best, we just see it in different ways. Probably why it lucky we can talk about it in here, and neither of us will be proved right or wrong probably as they will do something we haven't thought of.
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