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Olympic 7's

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
Arguably, someone like Cameron Clark played 7s for too long as it definitely impeded his ability to progress in XVs.

2 seasons in 7s should be the number I think for guys who aren't looking to be career 7s players (Clark did 5). I am guessing he wouldn't have stayed around so long if it wasn't for the carrot of the Olympics in 2016.
 

Dan54

Tim Horan (67)
Historically (and recently) this is exactly what it has been; Phipps, Bernard Foley, Sean McMahon, Cameron Clark and others all got their starts in the system.

Yep originally 7s was really a feeder for 15 rugby in both Aus and NZ, now it seems to be a seperate sport almost.
 

Teh Other Dave

Alan Cameron (40)
Getting ring-ins to play sounds good in theory, but our sevens program faces an even bigger problem than our XVs: professional sportspeople have a limited timeframe to make bucks. Olympic tennis is the perfect example of this, and they don't even have to spend time adapting to a modified version of their game.

I doubt many NRL players would want to make the crossover, and can't think of any clubs that would say 'sure, go play union at the olympics'.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
Getting ring-ins to play sounds good in theory, but our sevens program faces an even bigger problem than our XVs: professional sportspeople have a limited timeframe to make bucks. Olympic tennis is the perfect example of this, and they don't even have to spend time adapting to a modified version of their game.

I doubt many NRL players would want to make the crossover, and can't think of any clubs that would say 'sure, go play union at the olympics'.


You definitely don't want ring-ins en masse. One or two for an Olympics like Samu Kerevi might work. Players that offer a real point of difference that can be utilised in a specific way.

One thing you can't teach is the ability to break tackles and that is something that aside from Kerevi our team absolutely lacked.

The 7s option should be a good option for two years for guys who would otherwise be on an old EPS level contract or on the fringes of a Super Rugby squad and outside the matchday 23.

They would still need something like the NRC so they can play a decent number of XVs games a season.
 

PhilClinton

Geoff Shaw (53)
I reckon one thing is certain, if Rugby 7s is still an Olympic sport in 2032 (and honestly it’s a big IF), there will be more than a few hands being raised from blokes outside normal 7s programs wanting to win a medal on home soil.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
Staff member
I reckon one thing is certain, if Rugby 7s is still an Olympic sport in 2032 (and honestly it’s a big IF), there will be more than a few hands being raised from blokes outside normal 7s programs wanting to win a medal on home soil.


Why do you think it's a big if?
 

wamberal

Phil Kearns (64)
If we looked at it from just a Rugby perspective, and assumed all Aussie based players would be available, something like this for a 12 player squad wouldn't be bad:

1. Malouf
2. Holland
3. Longbottom
4. McDermott
5. Kerevi
6. Uru
7. Petaia
8. T.Wright
9. Daugunu
10. Samu
11. Banks
12. Hooper

What about Tim Anstee????
 

Teh Other Dave

Alan Cameron (40)
What about Tim Anstee????

Or Chris Anstey
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RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
Staff member
It's a great idea Reg, the problem currently of course is Harry Wilson gets paid $200k to play Super Rugby for the Reds when he leaves school.

If he chose the 7s pathway he'd have $50 tuckshop money and a free pair of boots.

The entire 7s program needs an overhaul, maybe using it as a Super Rugby feeder is the answer.

Wilson was not on $200k out of school.

Perhaps more the likes of Mac Grealy, Lucas Ripley, the Oates brothers, Jonte Connelly, Will Roach.
 

Teh Other Dave

Alan Cameron (40)
Maybe we're being a bit harsh. Lost three games, but to the medallists, and two of those loses were close. In fact, the NZ loss was a choke.
 

PhilClinton

Geoff Shaw (53)
Why do you think it's a big if?

Because it’s only a recent addition to the Olympics and the entire 7s circuit has been thrown off kilter by COVID. The sports itself needs to find its feet again. If participation drops in the next few years and they don’t get back to the hype levels of 5 years ago there is no guarantee they’ll keep it as an Olympic sport.
 

zer0

Jim Lenehan (48)
Oh well. Fair play to Fiji. Think it was a good campaign overall for NZ. Definitely better than last time, anyway. Curry was immense throughout, and Collier was good too.

Don't keep up with Sevens anywhere near as much these days, but seems NZ still have the physicality but still also struggle for pace. Leveraging that strength, and managing that shortcoming, by controlling possession for protracted periods is great -- and oddly satisfying to watch as it's quite un-Sevensy -- but sometimes you just need to give it to some speedy c*nt and tell him to go win you a gold medal. Unfortunately we didn't have that option today, but should be a priority for next time round.

Thus, two years out from the next Olympics, I think NZR need to do something like go out and get two or three of the latest Super Rugby young gun outside backs and inject them fulltime into the Sevens programme. Having guys like Nanai-Seturo, Rayasi, and Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens in this squad with two years of experience, for instance, would've at least given us that option of throwing them the ball and ask for magic in return.

If they're going to give them the All Black branding, then they might as well start giving the Sevens programme some of the resources too. Especially as they're, you know, competing in the fucken Olympics.
 

D-Box

Ron Walden (29)
To be fair to Australia their losses that mattered were to the teams that finished 1, 2 and 3!
 

Rob42

John Solomon (38)
You just have to love Fiji, don't you? The passion during the anthems. The speed, the physicality. That run down the right sideline to score in the first half. The skills, the understanding. What it means back home. Congratulations Fiji, you were brilliant.

And comiserations NZ, you deserved to be in the gold medal match.
 

LearningCurve

Bill Watson (15)
You just have to love Fiji, don't you? The passion during the anthems. The speed, the physicality. That run down the right sideline to score in the first half. The skills, the understanding. What it means back home. Congratulations Fiji, you were brilliant.

And comiserations NZ, you deserved to be in the gold medal match.

No arguments there - Fiji were deserved winners. Argentina were the surprise package - they were great.
 
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