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Wallabies v Springboks II, Allianz Stadium 7:35pm 03/09/22

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stillmissit

Chilla Wilson (44)
No Big issue Tomikon, I get the shits when people with good memory and spelling get stuck into the rest of us.
It may come as a surprise but I am pretty well read and fairly erudite in the right situation.
 

Dismal Pillock

Simon Poidevin (60)
Seeing as the lad might be around for a lonnnng time, been trying to get to grips with the correct spelling of "Taukei'aho" but it's one that requires constant attention.
Rugby is stupid and i hate it.
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Tomikin

Simon Poidevin (60)
No Big issue Tomikon, I get the shits when people with good memory and spelling get stuck into the rest of us.
It may come as a surprise but I am pretty well read and fairly erudite in the right situation.
we have some stuff that can help.. FF (Folau Fainga'a) , 7As (Allan Ala'alatoa) LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) , JOC (James O'Connor) not one for Valetini .. but you could just call him Bobby, I do that with Noah sometimes as I forget how to spell his name :)
 

KiwiM

Trevor Allan (34)
What a scrappy game.

Boks did some score some good tries in amongst the mess though. Thought their 8 Wiese had an excellent game - good ball runner.

Wallabies were second best in kicking game and collisions which made for a long night.

Holloway has come a long way this year but probably could use a breather. I agree that Leota in the short term is a better option.

I think O'Keeffe's biggest issue was being overly officious in the first 20 minutes or so - really took any flow right out of the game. Doesn't help also that Pickerall was TMO - who is overly officious in his own right (although that last camera angle of the Wallaby cleanout was bad and rightly penalised).

A bit of a flush the dunny performance from the Wallabies.
 

Namerican

Bill Watson (15)
This games just another one of those which make it increasingly difficult to argue rugby is an engaging spectator sport.

I woke up at 3 in the morning to watch this and God do I regret it. Incomprehensible officiating. Nothing but penalties and kicking the ball away. The game is in a dire state. O'Keefe was shockingly bad. The game was awful in every facet. Maul, kick, penalty, kick, maul, penalty, penalty. Pure shit.
 

stillmissit

Chilla Wilson (44)
we have some stuff that can help.. FF (Folau Fainga'a) (Folau Fainga'a) , 7As (Allan Ala'alatoa) (Allan Ala'alatoa) LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) , JOC (James O'Connor) (James O'Connor) not one for Valetini .. but you could just call him Bobby, I do that with Noah sometimes as I forget how to spell his name :)
Very handy Tomikin, I knew FF (Folau Fainga'a) and LSL (Lukhan Salakaia-Loto) but a complete list would be very handy to us with disabilities!
 

stillmissit

Chilla Wilson (44)
I woke up at 3 in the morning to watch this and God do I regret it. Incomprehensible officiating. Nothing but penalties and kicking the ball away. The game is in a dire state. O'Keefe was shockingly bad. The game was awful in every facet. Maul, kick, penalty, kick, maul, penalty, penalty. Pure shit.
O'Keefe wasn't bad per se but followed the law to the letter and never gave either side an opportunity to express themselves. Can't complain, the Wallabies know what he is like and had plenty of time to prepare for him, they appeared to have done nothing and looked surprised at every second penalty.
 

Namerican

Bill Watson (15)
O'Keefe wasn't bad per se but followed the law to the letter and never gave either side an opportunity to express themselves. Can't complain, the Wallabies know what he is like and had plenty of time to prepare for him, they appeared to have done nothing and looked surprised at every second penalty.

You can't have wildly different officiating each week. World Rugby needs to get their act together and have some level of consistency. And Keefe bottled it many times over (AAA, boks throw in, not held, leroux knock on etc.).

In no other sport do you accept that different referees officiate the game wildly different. Even speeding them up for lineouts. A few weeks ago Pearce was all over it. Today? Nothing.
 

eastman

Arch Winning (36)
I think the game showed how important emotion can be in rugby union- they clearly wanted the game more then us and we wanted it more than them the week earlier.

What was also apparent is how little cohesion and guile we have in attack without Quade Cooper. Sure we can play somewhat direct with a short passing game in the forwards for a limited amount of time but we have no ability to read or unlock defences.

It was quite obvious we were not winning that game after 15 minutes.
 

Joe Blow

Peter Sullivan (51)
I think the game showed how important emotion can be in rugby union- they clearly wanted the game more then us and we wanted it more than them the week earlier.

What was also apparent is how little cohesion and guile we have in attack without Quade Cooper. Sure we can play somewhat direct with a short passing game in the forwards for a limited amount of time but we have no ability to read or unlock defences.

It was quite obvious we were not winning that game after 15 minutes.
They surely have to have a look at Foley over the next two games to see if he is a serious option for next year. If Noah doesn’t recover they may have little choice. Either way I reckon we will see Foley in some capacity in the first Bled.
 

qwerty51

Stirling Mortlock (74)
Out of interest what did Holloway do?

From what i saw he was worst forward on the field; dropped balls, passes to ground, missed tackles and ineffectual in the ruck and ball carries.
Lots of kick pressure (2 charge downs)
Strong in the lineout -> maul transition on offence and defence
Cleaned effectively
Carries were solid

He wasn't that good but I struggled to pick a 3rd best player.
 

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Some people had mentioned Rennie criticizing White post-game. I assume that wasn't the actual post match press conference. Was that something just on Stan?
 

RugbyReg

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Lots of kick pressure (2 charge downs)
Strong in the lineout -> maul transition on offence and defence
Cleaned effectively
Carries were solid

He wasn't that good but I struggled to pick a 3rd best player.

he was up and down wasn't he? Did a couple of good things in general play but he looks too slow for backrow (as I think the Tahs had IDed previously). Stats aren't good. 4 runs for 0 metres and 3 tackles with 3 missed. Obviously no visibility of rucks hit etc but I think he's not up to it, which was my fear all along.

As you say though - tough to find a viable 3rd option in 3-2-1s.
 
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