Sydney Subbies 2022

[Heavyd]

A tough day for Newport on Saturday with mother nature putting on a day that definately didnt play to their running rugby style of play. Interesting that Newport ran into the wind in all four games in the first half, Im not sure if they couldnt take a trick on the coin toss or it was a tactic.

3rd grade ground out a win against a tough UNSW side and to be honest I thought the Breakers got more than their fair share of decisions and a couple of displays of brillance were enough to secure a tight win.

Colts were down 17-0 running into the breeze and suffered the heartbreak of an after the siren penalty to lose. They can be proud of their season and they will stew on that one for a while as they have been the only side to beat Lindfield throughout the year and on a dry track would have fancied thier chances but it was not to be. The core of that group have another year to go in colts and Im sure will be back bigger and better next year.

2nds got blown off the park with the big UNSW pack and smart kicking game putting the game out of reach by halftime. The boys will be kicking themselves on probaly their worst performance of the year but full credit to UNSW and Lindfield for making the big dance and that GF will be a belter.

In 1st grade a pumped up Lindfield knew they were in with a chance in those conditions and their scrum put Breakers under pressure all day. Again it came down to an act of individual brillance for the boys to grind out a tough victory over a determined Lindfield. Big result in the other semi with Hawkesbury dispatched by a powerful UNSW. UNSW were the only team to have beaten Newport during the year and lets hope for a dry track Saturday for the Breakers sparkling backline to be unleashed and some returning front rowers to sure up the pack.

 

[Eastcoast]

A tough day for Newport on Saturday with mother nature putting on a day that definately didnt play to their running rugby style of play. Interesting that Newport ran into the wind in all four games in the first half, Im not sure if they couldnt take a trick on the coin toss or it was a tactic.

3rd grade ground out a win against a tough UNSW side and to be honest I thought the Breakers got more than their fair share of decisions and a couple of displays of brillance were enough to secure a tight win.

Colts were down 17-0 running into the breeze and suffered the heartbreak of an after the siren penalty to lose. They can be proud of their season and they will stew on that one for a while as they have been the only side to beat Lindfield throughout the year and on a dry track would have fancied thier chances but it was not to be. The core of that group have another year to go in colts and Im sure will be back bigger and better next year.

2nds got blown off the park with the big UNSW pack and smart kicking game putting the game out of reach by halftime. The boys will be kicking themselves on probaly their worst performance of the year but full credit to UNSW and Lindfield for making the big dance and that GF will be a belter.

In 1st grade a pumped up Lindfield knew they were in with a chance in those conditions and their scrum put Breakers under pressure all day. Again it came down to an act of individual brillance for the boys to grind out a tough victory over a determined Lindfield. Big result in the other semi with Hawkesbury dispatched by a powerful UNSW. UNSW were the only team to have beaten Newport during the year and lets hope for a dry track Saturday for the Breakers sparkling backline to be unleashed and some returning front rowers to sure up the pack.

Heavy D - What are your thoughts on the Red card in the Div 4 2nd grade game vs the tackle in the opening 2 minutes of your first grade game by your - 6/7, which ended up only being a Penalty?

The latter appeared to be a more dangerous tackle yet the sanctions completely different.

 

[Heavyd]

Havent seen the Div 4 game so cant comment but thought Newport was lucky not to have someone in the bin.

 

[Heavyd]

I also thought Newport were very unlucky to have a penatly try awarded against them in colts so it swings in roundabouts I guess.

 

[Eastcoast]

Havent seen the Div 4 game so cant comment but thought Newport was lucky not to have someone in the bin.

I also thought Newport were very unlucky to have a penatly try awarded against them in colts so it swings in roundabouts I guess.

Completely agree with you there - Hard when it changes the outcome of a season for 15 people.

Not blaming the referees in this situation - They get told to sanction in a certain way, although the lack of consistency is the hardest part to swallow.

 

[qwerty123]

They looked very similar to me, and there wasn't consistency in the decision making...

Maybe we should be happy that the refereeing quality is higher than the playing standard of 4th div second grade subbies (most subbies). We aren't professionals and neither are they. I for one am thankful that I can run around on a Saturday and drop a pass from 2m away. Thanks refs.

 

[Pfitzy]

I for one am thankful that I can run around on a Saturday and drop a pass from 2m away. Thanks refs.

I'm going whistling full time next season You'll know it's me if my pre-game involves the term "My aim is to make less mistakes than the rest of you put together"

 

[The Ghost of Raelene]

You'll have quite the buffer with some of the games I've seen

 

[Eastcoast]

My comment concerns the decision-making, and its inconsistency - its not criticism of the referees themselves.

My criticism isnt with the referees. You can see the International referees having to follow a procedure that has been put in place by someone who hasnt played the game to understand the difference between accidental and deliberate acts.

Pull back on the card happy recommendations from the governing bodies and only heavily penalise the deliberate acts.

 

[KentwellCup>ShuteShield]

Very tough loss - Boys defended really well at the end. Felt we earned a turnover late but 50/50's generally go with the attacking team. 4's were always up against it with Mosman being very strong.
Should be a big week with 1's and 2's both in huge games. Get down to Woollahra instead of watching Div 2 GFs

funny you say that, the ref had some shockers, giving a lot of penalties to HH.

I heard he was an uncle to one of the players.

 

[Pfitzy]

God help us all....

As long as you're not playing, we'll be fine

 

[The Waverley Walrus]

funny you say that, the ref had some shockers, giving a lot of penalties to HH.

I heard he was an uncle to one of the players.

 

[KentwellCup>ShuteShield]

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[Eyes and Ears]

Totally agree - the younger refs who are now international refs - are way too trigger happy. This I compare to the refs from around 20 years ago..

An example was when Angus Garner recently penalised the Boks #12, who was inside the 5m line, from a Bok attacking scrum, when he was passed the ball! Its like they look for shit to penalise, and are happy when they do so - refs need to understand - at all levels of the game - that spectators are not there to see them referee and nit pick penalties..

This is a World Rugby directive not an individual referee style.

 

[Eyes and Ears]

No, its not...

It is for the Test referees which means that it will probably be a global directive to everyone or focus area for the next season. If a try was scored from this, it would be considered a major error in a Test Match.

 

[Eastcoast]

Enough with the Referees

Div 1 - Kentwell Semi Finals
Any predictions from the group before I go into my Thursday summaries?

Might as well ask for Div 2 as well -
Anyone from UNSW able to let me know if you are stacking 4's this week or focusing on the Barraclough?

 

[Mangoman]

Enough with the Referees

Div 1 - Kentwell Semi Finals
Any predictions from the group before I go into my Thursday summaries?

Might as well ask for Div 2 as well -
Anyone from UNSW able to let me know if you are stacking 4's this week or focusing on the Barraclough?

With open selection, we’ve actually come up with a plan to play our 1st grade in 4ths, 2nds and 1sts!

In all seriousness, if you genuinely think that a club who has a chance to take out 1st and 2nd grade (as they have all season) and would “stack” 4ths, then you’re a few sandwiches short of a picnic my friend...

 

[Tah Man]

Enough with the Referees

Div 1 - Kentwell Semi Finals
Any predictions from the group before I go into my Thursday summaries?

Might as well ask for Div 2 as well -
Anyone from UNSW able to let me know if you are stacking 4's this week or focusing on the Barraclough?

What a huge day for both the Eastern clubs in div 1 with all 6 teams featuring in Semi finals. Massive effort

 

[Heavyd]

Div 2
1st grade: Barraclough features 1st vs 2nd with UNSW the only team to have beaten Newport this season. Am I nervous, absolutely, particularly given the Breakers peformance on Saturday. But, with a 23c forecast and hopefully a semi dry track I think superior fitness and skill will prevail. Newport by 1

2nd grade: Stockdale again features 1st vs 2nd from the end of season ladder and I think given my above point around weather, 23c will feel like 30c coming out of winter that will favour Lindfield's style of play. UNSW are very solid but their size and mobility might struggle to stay with a well drilled and proficent Lindfield set piece. Old Soldier by 7

Colts: Im still hurting from Saturdays loss as I think Newport had a real chance against Lindfield. But alas it was not to be and I think Lindfield will over power Easts in the 2nd half. The two teams met only once this season with a 39-14 scoreline to Lindfield, so Lindfield will start as $1.30 favourites. However, if Easts can go with them in the forwards, run around the Lindfield big men I think East could find holes as Lindfield backs are suspect in defence. Should be a great game and will go with Old Soldier but wouldnt be suprised is this is the upset result on GF day.

3rds: Blunt Cup contains the two best teams in the competiton with their only encounter being a 28-15 victory to the Breakers. Cant read too much into that result as both teams look different to that round 5 encounter. Newport were good not great in shit conditions last week and I think a dryer track will suit their backs. UNSW looked big and solid in their 18-5 dispatch of Old soldier and this will be a good old fashion bash and barge encounter. Basically its a toss of the coin and Ill go with Newport by 1 with no real confidence.

4ths: Basically im suprised their is a GF in this grade given the comp featured only a handful of teams who played a handful of times. But good luck to both UNSW and Lindfield who will no doubt smash each other for the Cup. A 9.00am kick off means Ill be watching this one from clutch. I'll go with Old Soldier as they have numbers to burn.

So if Im right its Newport and Lindfield having a jolly old day but I suspect it could be the exact opposite. Let rugby be the winner, let the game flow!

 

[Eastcoast]

With open selection, we’ve actually come up with a plan to play our 1st grade in 4ths, 2nds and 1sts!

In all seriousness, if you genuinely think that a club who has a chance to take out 1st and 2nd grade (as they have all season) and would “stack” 4ths, then you’re a few sandwiches short of a picnic my friend...

Id hate to take you fishing @Mangoman - You take the bait everytime