Sydney Subbies 2022

[Eastcoast]

And minor premiers take Barraclough. Close game.

Just watched the Barraclough this morning. Was this 2 teams who didnt want to win? Newport had the game in the bag and decided to gift it to UNSW and then UNSW decided they didnt want to win. Seemed to have alot of possession.
Feel bad for the player who dropped the ball. Never nice to see in a GF.

Congrats to all the other teams in Div 2 - Good mix of winners across the grades.

@Mangoman - Good win by you boys in 4's. Guess the players having to cover 3 grades caused the late mishap in 1's.

 

[Waterloo_Ned]

Congratulations to all premiers.

1st Grade - Newport 17-12 winners. A well deserved premiership for the men from Porters.

2nd Grade - Lindfield 27-19 take out an undefeated premiership. They really showed what a high quality 10 can do for any team. They were the best team we played all year.

Colts - Lindfield 15 - 3 win. Is this the start of the Old Soldier era? One of the best colts teams in Subbies, strong second grade, big numbers throughout the club and a strong old boys network who fills lower grades.

3rd Grade - Hills 7 - 5. Congratulations to Hills. They were the best team we played all year. Hopefully now the games stop and half that side play top 2 grades. The 12 should be playing Kentwell Cup and the 2 could be in Shute Shield.

4th Grade - UNSW 12 - 5 - A huge boiler with UNSW winning. I don't know if I agree with it, but the strategy of prioritising 4s has paid off for them.

 

[Heavyd]

3rd Grade - Hills 7 - 5. Congratulations to Hills. They were the best team we played all year. Hopefully now the games stop and half that side play top 2 grades. The 12 should be playing Kentwell Cup and the 2 could be in Shute Shield.

Northmead I was watching a different game as through my blue eye Newport dominated for 55 minutes, were held up 3 or 4 times over the line and should of won the game comfortably. I still cannot explain what Newport were thinking not taking 3 or 4 kickable penalities leading 5-0. Hills really didnt look like scoring a try all game except to their credit on the bell. Congratulations to Hills on their premiership as Newport will absolutely rue how they threw away what should of been a pretty comfortable victory.

 

[Pfitzy]

I still cannot explain what Newport were thinking not taking 3 or 4 kickable penalities leading 5-0

You get the territory and possession and think "just one more go" and it doesn't come off.

 

[Heavyd]

You get the territory and possession and think "just one more go" and it doesn't come off.

Lol thanks exactly what happened. Oh well there is always next year!

 

[KentwellCup>ShuteShield]

Tips for DIV 1 finals?

 

[The Wombat]

Sutherland: Mosman (1) v Waverley (3)
Judd: Blue Mountains (1) v Waverley (2)
Whiddon: Waverley (1) v Mosman (3)
Barbour: Colleagues (1) v Waverley (2)
Burke: Waverley(1) v St Pats (3)
Kentwell: Colleagues (1) v Hunters Hill (3)

 

[Eastcoast]

Sutherland: Mosman (1) v Waverley (3)
- Mosman have players that should be playing 1st Grade, not sure how they get away with it. Waverley have a bit of size for a 5th grade team, however cant see them matching the skill of this Whales squad. Watch out for the 15. Looks handy. Mosman by 15


Judd: Blue Mountains (1) v Waverley (2)
- Mountains will be winning this one. All GFs are tight games, but I feel the good players for Mountains have been going at 60% all year and if they decide to put their foot down, it will be hard for Waverley to match. Mountains by 7

Whiddon: Waverley (1) v Mosman (3)
- Mosman with an upset here I think. Waverley strong all year, however I have heard a few of their better players have been taken up into 2nd grade this week so that may disrupt the rhythm. Mosman have a knack of winning GF's. Mosman win this by 3.

Barbour: Colleagues (1) v Waverley (2)
- Didnt watch too much of Colts this year, so unsure how this one will go. Surely Colleagues win another colts premiership. Colleagues by 10

Burke: Waverley(1) v St Pats (3)
- I feel like I need to tip Waverley in at least one game, would be a horrid day to lose 5 Grand Finals. St Pats played their GF last week. They outplayed us, however I cant see them knocking off a very strong Waverley team here. Waverley by 5

Kentwell: Colleagues (1) v Hunters Hill (3)
- Ill leave this one up to the others to analyse. The boys are up for it. Would be a huge achievement to win 3 Premierships in a row (2 x Barraclough and 1 Kentwell)

 

[KentwellCup>ShuteShield]

Suthos:
Mosman v Waverley.
Ill be backing the sperm whales on the opening account of the day. With only 1 loss this season, Ill think they'll be too strong.

Judd:
Blue Mountains v Waverley.
With the mountain gone through the season undefeated, with a side that looks too good for 4th Grade, they will take this one out against the backpackers.

Whiddon:
Waverley v Mosman
I'm backing Waverley in this 3rd grade match up. They've been too strong this season going through undefeated, winning by a bonus point in 13 games (wow!). However, Colleagues ran them very close in the semi, which would be worrying for the ExPats. Along with Mosman polishing off a very strong blue mountains side, I think this will be a very close affair. The game I am least unsure about.

Barbour:
Colleagues v Waverley
A div 1 heavyweight clash! 1 v 2. This will be one of the best games on the day in my opinion. The competitions best forward pack (Colleagues) v the competitions best backline (Waverley). It will be interesting to see who prevails, but as the old adage goes "Forwards win the game, backs decide by how much" and I believe this will ring true this Saturday. Colleagues pack will be too strong for Waverley, if Colleagues can force Waverley to play their game.

On an interesting side note, if Colleagues win Barbour. It will be first Colts double crown, in subbies history! With Colleagues winning the Radford Cup earlier this year.

Burke:
Waverley v St Pats.
Waverleys burke team has looked insane this year, powerful forwards coupled with a strong, fast backs. I think Waverley will put the Patties boys to the sword.

Kentwell:
Colleagues v Hunters Hill
The main event, a clash of old rivals. Some good close tough match ups between the two teams this year. With each team taking the chocolates home at-least once this year. Colleagues first final berth in nearly decade, and will be looking for their first Kentwell trophy since 2011. I think the Blue Giants will wont slip up in this game, especially after form dip in the latter part of the season. Hunters Hill will be strong, and you cannot count them out whatsoever.

 

[Pfitzy]

Suthos:
Mosman v Waverley.
Ill be backing the sperm whales on the opening account of the day. With only 1 loss this season, Ill think they'll be too strong.

Friday night rugby? Get in!

 

[Pfitzy]

c u there Fitzy-Fencepost! I'll even buy you a beer

Tbh I'll still be a bit shy of beer from the Kentwell lunch tomorrow

 

[WoodyWoodsman]

What a hoax the Kentwell Cup luncheon is. Pigs! The clubs in the lower divisions have propped up Subbies again in 2022 and it’s a big wankfest with only Division 1 clubs invited.
The Knox people lunching it up should be ashamed of their contribution to rugby this year.

 

[Tah Man]

What a hoax the Kentwell Cup luncheon is. Pigs! The clubs in the lower divisions have propped up Subbies again in 2022 and it’s a big wankfest with only Division 1 clubs invited.
The Knox people lunching it up should be ashamed of their contribution to rugby this year.

You realise its called the "Kentwell" cup lunch, not the Subbies lunch?

 

[WoodyWoodsman]

You realise its called the "Kentwell" cup lunch, not the Subbies lunch?

Good one, Tah man. This is a traditional event that all clubs in Subbies land go to.
Subbies is supposedly the game for the game itself… or is it the game for those who play in division 1.
Did you see a notice for the Barraclough lunch, or the Clark lunch, or the McLean lunch, or the Jeffrey lunch?
Thanks Tah Man, jog on.

 

[DaSchmooze]

Good one, Tah man. This is a traditional event that all clubs in Subbies land go to.
Subbies is supposedly the game for the game itself… or is it the game for those who play in division 1.
Did you see a notice for the Barraclough lunch, or the Clark lunch, or the McLean lunch, or the Jeffrey lunch?
Thanks Tah Man, jog on.

Keep your shirt on WW. One would assume that a Kentwell Cup lunch would only involve teams from that division.

Did you score an invite to the Shute Shield luncheon as well? Relax mate

 

[Pfitzy]

Not sure how the invitation system works, and I admit to not knowing everyone in Subbies, but I definitely spoke to Lane Cove while I was there. Neither of the gents involved are Board members or Life Members as far as I'm aware.

 

[Pfitzy]

One would assume that a Kentwell Cup lunch would only involve teams from that division.

Usually the "Kentwell Lunch" is on GF Day for Div 1, and you'd have the President and Secretary given invitations from each club across all Divisions. I believe that is still happening but is a drinks function from 2PM at TG, rather than a lunch.

The lunch today also celebrated 100 years since the Kentwell Cup was introduced.

 

[WoodyWoodsman]

Usually the "Kentwell Lunch" is on GF Day for Div 1, and you'd have the President and Secretary given invitations from each club across all Divisions. I believe that is still happening but is a drinks function from 2PM at TG, rather than a lunch.

The lunch today also celebrated 100 years since the Kentwell Cup was introduced.

Oh well, best not to invite the riff raff that pays its dues and props the top division up.

Keep your shirt on WW. One would assume that a Kentwell Cup lunch would only involve teams from that division.

Did you score an invite to the Shute Shield luncheon as well? Relax mate

can’t wait for the lower division lunches then….

 

[Prodigy]

From an Epping point of view, it is incredibly disappointing to find out that a club like Lane Cove (no issues with the Covies) are invited to the Ketwell luncheon, however, as a club, Epping were not.
This season there were 24 clubs that fielded 3 or more grades in regular competitions (not including Halligans Cup). Of those 24, only 6 clubs fulfilled their divisional responsibility and playing responsibility for the entire 2023 season. By this, I mean, they fielded the required number of games and did not forfeit a single fixture. These are the clubs that should have been rewarded and recognised as part of the Subbies luncheon.
The Subbies executive and the Subbies board have alot of work to do over the off season, because they need to fix the mess that the competition is right now. Sticking to strict and rigid rules regarding player numbers, teams and divisional status (or God-like status if you can make it to Kentwell) will drive more and more clubs out of business.

Division 1 does not stand alone in Subbies and it cannot. I have a copy of the Subbies book, "The Game for the Game Itself", somewhere and it is duly noted how the competition survives based on the strength of its numbers. Ostracising clubs and players is not the way to go.
I mean, seriously, the McLean Medal was awarded at the grand final and the player wasn't there. He was adjudged the most outstanding player in the division and it was a case of "here's the medal, club president, can you give it to him?"

 

[Pfitzy]

I mean, seriously, the McLean Medal was awarded at the grand final and the player wasn't there. He was adjudged the most outstanding player in the division and it was a case of "here's the medal, club president, can you give it to him?"

My recollection is that they were to be invited to the McLean Cup final to receive the medal. I assume some form of communication got through because your President was in attendance - was the player not available?

It is an unusual case this year because I believe every other medal winner was playing on GF day. Even the guys today with the Kentwell and ?Barbour? Medal are both scheduled to play Saturday (Colts guy said he will probably play 2nd Grade for Pats).