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Sydney Subbies 2022

WoodyWoodsman

Sydney Middleton (9)
Do we know if the elite and privileged who attended this event had to pay or was it funded by my clubs subs and ludicrous insurance premiums of which subbies get a massive backhander on?
Unlikely that any of them paid to attend. I’d be reconsidering my affiliation fees if I was a lower divisions club.
 

WoodyWoodsman

Sydney Middleton (9)
I'm reasonably sure it wasn't "ludicrous insurance premiums of which subbies get a massive backhander".
No, it was more likely the affiliation fees paid for by the 40+ clubs in the association.
but it’s not like rugby to only consider the top end of town and forget about the little guys.
Probably a lot of people in the room patting themselves on the back for the amazing job they have done this year.
 

Prodigy

Alex Ross (28)
Did you know that out of the 24 clubs that fielded more than 2 grades this year (across Divisions 1, 2 & 4), only 6 of them were able to fulfill their divisional requirement as well as fulfill their game obligations (i.e. not forfeiting a game). Only 3 were in Division 1......

Where is the recognition of this?
 

Pfitzy

George Gregan (70)
Or will clubs not hear anything - outside of updates from their website - from Subbies-land?

Contact information for Subbies is available on their website if anyone has queries, grievances, or grudges.

Probably a more suitable communication method than a random rugby forum, yes?
 

Pfitzy

George Gregan (70)
Back to the action - Whales win 18-0 over Waverley at David Phillips tonight. The first try came a few phases after an excellent 50-22 resulted in an attacking lineout. Second try pure power with the maul. Add a couple of penalties and that's all she wrote.

Waves were OK but handling and discipline seemed to let them down at key moments from the parts I watched out of the corner of my eye.
 

Lurker

Bob McCowan (2)
Wow - there are some pelicans on this thread!

The Lurker is reliably informed that the lunch was essentially free - as part of the Waratahs sponsorship deal with Tattersals Club. The Lurker believes that all beverages were provided by Waratah sponsors.

the Lurker also understands that a wide cross section of clubs across divisions were invited.

the traditional lunch at Millner has been converted to an open bar - so all the little piggies from the lower divisions can get their fill!

No touching the precious subs - or affiliation fees. You blokes whining can relax - Subbies actually saved a shed load of money.

you can now resume your normal transmission!

oink Oink from the Lurker. xxx ooo
 

Pfitzy

George Gregan (70)
the Lurker also understands that a wide cross section of clubs across divisions were invited.

I just had a random thought: maybe it was clubs who had ever won Kentwell and still exist? Lane Cove won it in 1967 and 1968.
 

Eastcoast

Larry Dwyer (12)
Wow - there are some pelicans on this thread!

The Lurker is reliably informed that the lunch was essentially free - as part of the Waratahs sponsorship deal with Tattersals Club. The Lurker believes that all beverages were provided by Waratah sponsors.

the Lurker also understands that a wide cross section of clubs across divisions were invited.

the traditional lunch at Millner has been converted to an open bar - so all the little piggies from the lower divisions can get their fill!

No touching the precious subs - or affiliation fees. You blokes whining can relax - Subbies actually saved a shed load of money.

you can now resume your normal transmission!

oink Oink from the Lurker. xxx ooo
Looking forward to finding you somewhere near the bar tomorrow Lurker. How do I get myself into this little open bar get up of Subbies without any noticing i dont belong
 

Pfitzy

George Gregan (70)

It is interesting to look at that list, and understand that of the 31 Kentwell winners:

8 are in First Division this year (Blue Mountains and Forest being the 2 without a Kentwell)
2 are in Second Division (Newport and UNSW)
2 are basically Third Division (Briars and Old Iggies)
3 are Fourth Div (Savers, St Ives, and Epping - tho you could make a case for them being closer to Third Div)
2 are in Sixth Div (Lane Cove effectively, and Balmain)

14 don't exist in effect, tho they may have evolved - someone with a better appreciation of the history might know more:

Bondi Life Savers
Bronte
Concord West
Coogee
Dundas Valley
Matraville
Moore Park
Newington Old Boys
North Steyne
NSW Fire Brigades
Roseville
Royal Aus Artillery
St Leo's
Western Suburbs
 

Lurker

Bob McCowan (2)
Looking forward to finding you somewhere near the bar tomorrow Lurker. How do I get myself into this little open bar get up of Subbies without any noticing i dont belong
You will fit right in EastCoast. Maybe a little too well based on some of your posts….

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WoodyWoodsman

Sydney Middleton (9)
I just had a random thought: maybe it was clubs who had ever won Kentwell and still exist? Lane Cove won it in 1967 and 1968.
Why is Prodigy so filthy? Surely the Rams got an invite seeing as though Epping is listed as winning the Kentwell in 1945…. If that was the prerequisite for attendance.
 

WoodyWoodsman

Sydney Middleton (9)

It is interesting to look at that list, and understand that of the 31 Kentwell winners:

8 are in First Division this year (Blue Mountains and Forest being the 2 without a Kentwell)
2 are in Second Division (Newport and UNSW)
2 are basically Third Division (Briars and Old Iggies)
3 are Fourth Div (Savers, St Ives, and Epping - tho you could make a case for them being closer to Third Div)
2 are in Sixth Div (Lane Cove effectively, and Balmain)

14 don't exist in effect, tho they may have evolved - someone with a better appreciation of the history might know more:

Bondi Life Savers
Bronte
Concord West
Coogee
Dundas Valley
Matraville
Moore Park
Newington Old Boys
North Steyne
NSW Fire Brigades
Roseville
Royal Aus Artillery
St Leo's
Western Suburbs
St Leo’s is now Beecroft Seniors.
 

DaSchmooze

Syd Malcolm (24)
No, it was more likely the affiliation fees paid for by the 40+ clubs in the association.
but it’s not like rugby to only consider the top end of town and forget about the little guys.
Probably a lot of people in the room patting themselves on the back for the amazing job they have done this year.
We now cross live to Hudson Park where the celebrations have already started for St Pat's upon hearing the news they are now the Top End of town.
 

Pfitzy

George Gregan (70)
The Lurker is reliably informed that the lunch was essentially free - as part of the Waratahs sponsorship deal with Tattersals Club. The Lurker believes that all beverages were provided by Waratah sponsors.

Can confirm. Holding a similarly sized lunch at TG on Kentwell Cup Day would have cost Subbies much, MUCH more.


the traditional lunch at Millner has been converted to an open bar - so all the little piggies from the lower divisions can get their fill!

And yet, of all the clubs in Subbies who were invited, only half a dozen showed. Life Members were well represented along with a few people from NSW Rugby, and even a sponsor or two.

Free entry to the ground, then free beer and food from 2PM, as well as covered seats to watch the back half of Second Grade and a fairly intense First Grade game. A chance to chat to Paul Doorn and a few other people in the Halls of Power ;) What's not to like?
 
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Pfitzy

George Gregan (70)
I'd also like to state that the claim made about about "backhanders" from insurance payments is unmitigated rubbish.

The Subbies Board is made up of active members of Clubs across all divisions, and we're keenly aware as Club people that insurance costs have risen and are a major issue for running community sport.

FACT: Subbies has been working with NSW Rugby and other unions to seek a better deal than the one that is currently in place, and particular individuals are covering a lot of ground to try and make this happen. Not all the factors in the insurance discussion are within the control of the Unions e.g. any insurer will look at the portfolio cost and price it accordingly.

Due to some large claims in rugby the last few years, for people who were seriously injured (wheelchair-for-life level injuries), there isn't a lot of room to price risk out of the premiums, but discussions are ongoing.
 
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