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Waratahs v. B&I Lions - Saturday 15 June 2013

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Ash

Michael Lynagh (62)
Sorry for being a pedant, but he went to ground on four consecutive scrums. My have been the Tahs not being able take the hit, but his side did go down four times.
63:25 Hibbard and Corbs go forward but pop up - reset
64:20 Corbs side collapses- Tahs penalised
65:13 Corbs side collapses going forward - reset
66:00 Corbs side collapses - Lions penalised
74:17 Corbs side collapses - Tahs penalised
76:46 Tahs 17 drives up and breaks Hibbards bind - Lions scrum win

Blue's point wasn't that it went down, but rather the big assumption that it was all the Lions doing it, particularly when 2 of 3 Tahs front rows were club level players.
 

RedsHappy

Tony Shaw (54)
I wouldn't mind seeing Drew in the squad off the back of tonight's performance. I think Moz had the benefit of playing the Lions a week earlier and having a similar night.

Deans' world of inexplicable oddities of selections continues.

As Ash has correctly highlighted, Morahan is a highly inconsistent player with effectively zero Test experience. He was selected on a single performance in a non-Test environment. Mitchell - although obviously below his peak - yet with huge Test experience would have been a far more 'conservative' yet nonetheless sensible choice. And his both-feet kicking capability under pressure off the bench might well have proved productive.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Surprise, surprise, Tah's v BI Lions live on ABC 612 Bris Vegas with Gerry Collins (not The All Blacks "Urinator"). Mrs Doug and I extend our good wishes to all Tah's supporters. HJ, Mr Doug has donned the "lucky clothing"!!

"Get in, sit down, belt up and hang on"!!!

Me too and several others in Chez Jarse. Items unserviceable and off for repairs. Not available for the Ponie but we are assured that they will be fully charged and serviceable in readiness for Next Saturday.

Go the Ponies.
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
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Just back from the game.

Was great to see those players I've watched on TV so much running around in front of me - especially Zebo, one of my favourites, and POC for whom I have man-love - make that rugby love.

The Lions very very good at slowing ball down and not getting pinged and ditto for getting off the line quickly.

Two things the game showed:

- if the ball can be sent wide, quickly and accurately, they can be outflanked.

- if teams try to bash it up the middle incessantly the Lions will eventually turn it over.

Therefore a wide game - but only from quick ball - is doubly justified.


PS - Roberts looks very doubtful with a hamstring strain.
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biggsy

Chilla Wilson (44)
Just back from the game.

Was great to see those players I've watched on TV so much running around in front of me - especially Zebo, one of my favourites, and POC for whom I have man-love - make that rugby love.

The Lions very very good at slowing ball down and not getting pinged and ditto for getting off the line quickly.

Two things the game showed:

- if the ball can be sent wide, quickly and accurately, they can be outflanked.

- if teams try to bash it up the middle incessantly the Lions will eventually turn it over.

Therefore a wide game - but only from quick ball - is doubly justified.


PS - Roberts looks very doubtful with a hamstring strain.
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Like watching the Reds v lions games. It was the same....

Not starting anything but just saying a cooper Genia combo is whats needed to spread the ball wide and quick with there passing games.... With the likes of that NRL bloke cummins diggers AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) would love to get quick seed to crash it up out wide.
 

Pfitzy

George Gregan (70)
Jaco Peyper is quickly becoming my favourite ref. His improvement over the last few years has been awesome - such great control of the game.

Mainly, he lets the players sort it out. Very laid back style.

Back from the game. Tahs turned over to much ball across the gain line - usually when they'd been very successful in breaching it with fair ease.

Mark the Lions' wasted overlaps against the Tahs knocking it on in close, and you still have a thirty point ball game.

Roberts was crap.

Horne would have been more effective at 12.

Mitchell and Skelton and 1/2p outstanding, along with Davies. Warburton surely can't be ahead of Tipuric or O'Brien on that showing

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The_Brown_Hornet

John Eales (66)
Really enjoyed the game. The first half in particular was absolute quality and that undermanned Tahs team really went hard. Good on 'em for that. I was great to see two teams do the tough stuff up the middle and then also be prepared to spread the ball and play with some pace.

As far as next week goes, we can beat these blokes. It will require some hard tough footy in the tight stuff, but I honestly believe we can win if we can get some go forward and then get it wide.
 

cyclopath

George Smith (75)
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Like watching the Reds v lions games. It was the same..

Not starting anything but just saying a cooper Genia combo is whats needed to spread the ball wide and quick with there passing games.. With the likes of that NRL bloke cummins diggers AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper) would love to get quick seed to crash it up out wide.
Cooper ain't picked. So WTF is the point of yapping about him? Just wondering.
 

Richo

John Thornett (49)
Disappointing not to have a full house for this one, since apparently it was sol out. The utterly empty bay on the eastern side would suggest that someone, or some computer, will be decommissioned at Ticketek on Monday. Still, the Lions fans sang their favourite Disney movie theme song and a sizable number of Tahs fans kept alive their age old tradition of beating the traffic.

Some thoughts.

Expecting the Lions to play a boring, truck-it-up style of rugby against the Wallabies is foolish. From what I saw, the patterns Scott Allen described are typical. They'll take it wide with vigor whenever possible and contest the breakdown hard, looking for quick ball.

Offside, shmoffside. Lions have either been injecting Usain Bolt DNA or they're happy to lion up past the ruck. I'm going with the latter.

Tahs did well, given the side they fielded. Not much between the backs when it came down to it, but -- as expected and as always -- the packs were the difference.

Standouts for the Tahs: Mitchell, Big Willie and Tugboat Tommy "Chariots" Carter with his double. How Cheiks took off the two try hero, I'll never know. Betham was good with the ball in hand, needs to work on the rest of his game.
 

Richo

John Thornett (49)
Look, I'm just another punter bemused how a Tahs thread can turn into a Quade Fucking Cooper thread. But apparently, it can in some minds. Maybe we should have a rule about that...

I'm sure we can work in a Robbie Deans angle and really get some AMAZING synergies happening up in here.
 
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cyclopath

George Smith (75)
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I'm sure we can work in a Robbie Deans angle and really get some AMAZING synergies happening up in here.
I would be manifestly opposed to that eventuality, as an abject failure of GAGR KPIs, and wholesale abrogation of our mission statement.
 
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