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CAS Rugby 2014

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Scythe

Larry Dwyer (12)
Knox vs aloys was a game of two halfs. In the first half aloys played with discipline and structure, and really took it to Knox making it look like an upset was possible. Aloys spent a long period of time inside Knox's 22, however were only rewarded by a single try (similar to last week at barker where aloys had plenty of opportunities but couldn't convert them). Where as Knox's scored two tries in the first half despite spending much less time in the aloys red zone. However the second half was a different story with Knox's big forward pack crippling the aloys defence where most of tries came from in a 2nd half blowout. Knox played with structure in the second half and had a lot of front foot ball, with thier 9 giving good ball to the forwards with the 2 crossing 3 times in a great performance. With the exception of the Knox 13 and 9 I didn't the think their backs were that flashy. For aloys, they showed large potential in the first twenty minutes. In the forwards Nolan the second rower did well in the lineout and scored a good try, and the 7 made numerous great tackles and pilfers. I feel aloys should get a win next week up against Waverley, and if they can play with consistency for a full game, I imagine they will get a couple more.

Agreed - Halliday also made an impact from the bench


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Qsource

Frank Row (1)
[quote="Scythe, post: 610431, member: 12769"Agreed - Halliday also made an impact from the bench]

Agree about Halliday. I believe it was he first match back from injury, played a Stella game in the seconds, and nearly scored a try on his first touch in the first, running 10 meters of a good set piece of a lineout. I imagine he will receive a call up to the first this week.

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Paul Edwards

Frank Row (1)
I attended the Knox game and agree Knox 13 (Watson) was outstanding in attack. Needs to work on ball distribution however. I would say Vevers is better defensively which could be an asset if he is to cover Hutchinson for GPS (if Hutchinson plays 13 that is).
 

Scythe

Larry Dwyer (12)
Aloys 11 slotted into 13 to replace Vevers. Then Alec diamond (yellow headgear) came on to fill the wing. I agree it was a great take hands outstretched.

That was a good take

He is a funny case - someone told me he is a very good athlete but doesn't look like he runs as fast as he can on the field


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Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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^^^ From the Herald:
First XV CAS Round 4
Barker 46 ( M Brouff 2, S Campbell 2, H Phipps, D Balcomb Tries D Balcomb 5 Goals 2 Pen goals) bt Waverley 0

Knox 58 (J Widders-Leece 3 M Basson 2, B Van Zyl 2, J Pierce J Williams tries L Price 3 L Bosch 2 Goals L Price pen goal) bt St Aloysius 13 ( T Nowlan T Dunlop tries J Dainton pen goal)

Cranbrook 81 bt Trinity 8

Second XV
Barker 36 bt Waverley 0
Knox 26 bt St Aloysius 19
Cranbrook 25 bt Trinity 3
 

david turner

Bob McCowan (2)
knox 16 A's 26- aloys 16 A's 0

any stand outs from the game only heard results ?
I watched Bosch play in the 16s and 1s yesterday...he seemed pretty ordinary. Despite having a strong boot in the 16s and a half decent pass playing 9 for the ones, there was the much to prove to the CAS, let alone north harbour selectors. The only thing he has got going for him is a hefty pack and a quick, well-drilled backline, which he can slot into.
On a one on one basis with Bosch against slaven, I would rate slaven any day of the week. The Aloysius' 16s have been playing some good footy of late, but they lack confidence up front, they need to take a lesson from slaven's book and play good, hard, running rugby and they can dominate any team.
 

Scythe

Larry Dwyer (12)
I watched Bosch play in the 16s and 1s yesterday.he seemed pretty ordinary. Despite having a strong boot in the 16s and a half decent pass playing 9 for the ones, there was the much to prove to the CAS, let alone north harbour selectors. The only thing he has got going for him is a hefty pack and a quick, well-drilled backline, which he can slot into.
On a one on one basis with Bosch against slaven, I would rate slaven any day of the week. The Aloysius' 16s have been playing some good footy of late, but they lack confidence up front, they need to take a lesson from slaven's book and play good, hard, running rugby and they can dominate any team.

Bosch vs Slaven is an interesting debate. I also managed to watch this encounter and think in terms of natural talent Slaven will go onto become a better footballer than Bosch but at this stage in time size makes Bosch an appealing candidate for selectors

Bosch has a fantastic kicking game, is relatively fast and strong on the ball

Slaven is arguably faster and has a better step, is smaller at this stage and but definitely a better defender. Slaven tackles like he doesn't care for his life and hits the line hard if he has too - a tough nut.

For rep I would take both of them and perhaps play Bosch at 13 or vice versa - but you cant have one miss out due to the other taking his spot

Also remember Slaven has played 12,13, 9 and on the wing and is doing well for someone in his first year at full back - definitely a great utility option


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Pete King

Phil Hardcastle (33)
Chatting with a few mates over the weekend about waverley's horror season and turned to talk of better times, this is a side of wav graduates. few omissions there dave brown.

Maybe other cas schools can name heir sides?

15 Ryan Cross
14 Michael Cleary
13 Morgan Turinui
12 Luke Ricketson
11 Tom English
10 Cyril Towers
9 Brad Burke
8 Stephen Hoiles
7 Jed Holoway
6 Owen Finegan
5 Troy Jaques
4 Tim Kava
3 Sam Talaki
2 Adam Frier
1 Steve Finnane
 
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sidelineview

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Saw 4 games of rugby at Queens Park yesterday and have to say an unfortunate trend emerged. Waverley teams started out playing competitive rugby, but once they fell behind on the scoreboard were more interested in the fight than the game. Numerous head high tackles and other foul play. The Waverley boys in the stand loudly cheered every high tackle and dust up.

Absolute low point was just into the second half of the 2nds match - Waverley 4 was reported by both touch judges and given a red card (punching and possible head butt). As he walked off the Waverley boys in the stand yelled out 3 cheers for "name" (I won't name the player) and proceeded with the 3 cheers and applause. The coach did not speak to the player about letting the side down etc.

This crowd behavior and the terrible playing discipline suggest . well i'm not sure what. But schoolboy rugby has a particular code that was not evident yesterday. This was not a few isolated incidents, it was a clear pattern of behavior.

On a positive note i thought the referees did an excellent job under difficult conditions and i congratulate Waverley on supplying accredited touch judges for so many games (something Barker regularly fails at).


I disagree there was a 'trend' with the Waverley teams yesterday. 'Numerous head high tackles and other foul play' is an exaggeration and gives a wrong impression. Barker were aggressive and overly aggressive at times in the 1sts and 2nds, which you'd expect, and the Waverley boys reacted. It wasn't as if all the fighting and foul play were instigated by Waverley players.

You're right to a certain extent but your assessment is exaggerated and a dramatised version of the truth. And how do you know the coaches didn't speak to the player who was sent off for punching?
 

It is what it is

John Solomon (38)
Chatting with a few mates over the weekend about waverley's horror season and turned to talk of better times, this is a side of wav graduates. few omissions there dave brown.

Maybe other cas schools can name heir sides?

15 Ryan Cross
14 Michael Cleary
13 Morgan Turinui
12 Luke Ricketson
11 Tom English
10 Cyril Towers
9 Brad Burke
8 Stephen Hoiles
7 Jed Holoway
6 Owen Finegan
5 Troy Jaques
4 Tim Kava
3 Sam Talaki
2 Adam Frier
1 Steve Finnane
Coach Bob Dwyer.
 

SonnyDillWilliams

Nev Cottrell (35)
Much harder to put together a cranbrook team , however there have been some good ins, and by and large some "good blokes"

1. John pilton (82)
2. Justin McDonald (86) ... One of the best
3. John arber (86) or will Ashton (97)
4. Anthony Abrahams ... Of the magnificent 7 apartheid boycotters(67)
5. Nick burnham .(89).. Nice bloke ... Pick him over other blokes that rate themselves
6.john Ryan (85)
7. Dominic o'neil (95)
8. Makas (14) ... Have massive wraps on this kid
9. Richard fogarty (99)
10. Mark Patterson (84)
11. Grant lodge (86)
12. Christian Warner (94?)
13. Ed Stubbs (06)
14. Ian Williams (82)
15. Daniel batman (98?) ... Even if he was only there for a bit

Manager packer/gyngell ... Be a good party

Coach ... Marty Pitt (rip)

Actually very sad how many of the above are already rip ... And 80s were definitely the glory days ... Although 2014 shaping up to be maybe a new dawn .....?
 

Peabody

Herbert Moran (7)
Much harder to put together a cranbrook team , however there have been some good ins, and by and large some "good blokes"

1. John pilton (82)
2. Justin McDonald (86) . One of the best
3. John arber (86) or will Ashton (97)
4. Anthony Abrahams . Of the magnificent 7 apartheid boycotters(67)
5. Nick burnham .(89).. Nice bloke . Pick him over other blokes that rate themselves
6.john Ryan (85)
7. Dominic o'neil (95)
8. Makas (14) . Have massive wraps on this kid
9. Richard fogarty (99)
10. Mark Patterson (84)
11. Grant lodge (86)
12. Christian Warner (94?)
13. Ed Stubbs (06)
14. Ian Williams (82)
15. Daniel batman (98?) . Even if he was only there for a bit

Manager packer/gyngell . Be a good party

Coach . Marty Pitt (rip)

Actually very sad how many of the above are already rip . And 80s were the glory days
 

Lee Grant

John Eales (66)
Staff member
There is a thread somewhere on the best XV from any school - based on how they played as senior players.
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