Kurtley Beale

[Dumbledore]

Under that assumption why would he send it to Waratahs players who don't know DP either?

Because she worked for the Wallabies?

I imagine the argument that he would have sent it to a Waratah clique runs that he'd been playing with them in the Soup and was therefore closer to them than he was with players from the Force, Reds, Brumbies or Rebels. If a clique that insular had developed though, then that's a serious failure of management. Which again doesn't excuse the behaviour, but it does suggest that the Wallabies were not a smooth ship and that things were almost inevitably going to take a turn for the worse somewhere down the track.

 

[Slim 293]

I imagine the argument that he would have sent it to a Waratah clique runs that he'd been playing with them in the Soup and was therefore closer to them than he was with players from the Force, Reds, Brumbies or Rebels.

There doesn't seem to be any doubt that they were Waratahs' players he was sharing the image(s) with:

Beale said in his statement he had asked his lawyers to redact the names of the Waratahs players to whom he had sent the original lewd image on June 3 “so as to protect their privacy and involvement.”

 

[Muglair]

I can't get over those stupid players. How dumb are they?

Oh hold on!

Beale sent the ONE image a second time accidentally to Patston (incidentally meaning Hansen could not have received it). Meanwhile one of the players can do that shit like Tim on NCIS or Mike on Burn Notice where they triangulated the KB (Kurtley Beale)'s text through multiple dummy servers in 40 3rd world countries and inserted the second image.

Oops I am a dumb shit for not figuring that out.

 

[Slim 293]

I still don't think you've figured it out.............

 

[Muglair]

That presumes they would have known, it is unclear that the "shitfight" was known in detail by anyone other than the two involved in June.

As she told at least one other player (Hooper) it stands to reason she would have confided in Pocock or Moore

 

[Gagger]

Is it possible that Beale sent two images together, one that he had made and the other someone else had made in a previous Whatapp conversation on the 3rd of June?

He didn't make the second image. The second image wasn't doctored by an evil other party. It was just forwarded on. Apparently accidentally, according to Kurtley.

Does that help you Muglair?

 

[RugbyReg]

That's the biggest unexploded mine yet, IMO.

weren't they in camp for the France test?

 

[Brumbieman]

weren't they in camp for the France test?

That's my understanding of it.

Beale, a couple of days back in the Wallaby environment, immediately starts destabilising it by sending texts like these to his Waratah team mates.


Who were they in June?

Beale, Folau, Hooper, Palu, Skelton, AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper), Phipps, Betham......did I miss anyone?

 

[louie]

Let us all remember the wonderful fatprop.


Earlier this year Team GB cycling coach Dave Brailsford met Sir Alex Ferguson to exchange management tips and techniques. Brailsford was particularly keen to know the secret to Fergie's and Man Utd's success longevity. Ferguson's reply? "Get rid of the c**ts."

 

[Dumbledore]

weren't they in camp for the France test?

Pretty sure. So what turned this clique of Tahs players against Patson?

 

[Dumbledore]

That's my understanding of it.

Beale, a couple of days back in the Wallaby environment, immediately starts destabilising it by sending texts like these to his Waratah team mates.


Who were they in June?

Beale, Folau, Hooper, Palu, Skelton, AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper), Phipps, Betham..did I miss anyone?

Come on, you think he did it completely in isolation, no prompting at all? I don't buy it.

 

[louie]

also that applies to successful teams and internet forums.

 

[Train Without a Station]

Pretty sure. So what turned this clique of Tahs players against Patson?

Potentially the inconvenience her $700k in savings a year had caused.

 

[drop kick]

I love how you think you need to take it slowly for us

Please take it slowly for me because Smith's article is not clear.
How did the second image/message get attached to Beale's message.
Beale's telephone records don't seem to indicate that it was attached, unless the tribunal got it completely wrong.

Can you actually spell out what you are saying?
1. Are you saying Beale is lying and he did send the second text image/message?
2. Are you saying there was not enough evidence thatthe second image was sent by Beale? (even though his telephone records indicate it wasn't sent from his phone?)
3. Are you saying Beale forwarded a message from a third party which included his original message? (if so wouldn't it be obvious to Beale/Patston/Pulver who the forwarder was and wouldn't they have have been exposed.)

Sorry if I seem stupid but I don't have the up to date sources you do.

 

[Braveheart81]

That's my understanding of it.

Beale, a couple of days back in the Wallaby environment, immediately starts destabilising it by sending texts like these to his Waratah team mates.


Who were they in June?

Beale, Folau, Hooper, Palu, Skelton, AAC (Adam Ashley-Cooper), Phipps, Betham..did I miss anyone?

Ryan, Kepu, Polota-Nau.

If you're trying to tar as many players as possible, you may as well get all of them.

Betham wasn't in the squad for the June series. He was injured.

 

[fatprop]

Ryan, Kepu, Polota-Nau.

If you're trying to tar as many players as possible, you may as well get all of them.

Betham wasn't in the squad for the June series. He was injured.

I think Tah man was there abouts a well

 

[Dumbledore]

Potentially the inconvenience her $700k in savings a year had caused.

Do we actually know what those cutbacks entailed? Seems strange that only the Waratahs players, or a group of the Waratahs players, would have a problem with them.

 

[Train Without a Station]

When they are consistently the largest portion of the group not really. Not they have issues because they are Waratahs, just most of the group are Waratahs.

 

[Brumbieman]

Ryan, Kepu, Polota-Nau.

If you're trying to tar as many players as possible, you may as well get all of them.

Betham wasn't in the squad for the June series. He was injured.

I'm not trying to tar anyone, just work out which Tahs were in camp in June that may have been recipients of the texts.


Dumbledore is correct, 2 days in camp seems very quick for Beale to have been the person who started it all.

 

[Braveheart81]

I think Tah man was there abouts a well

Ever noticed how Tah Man's costume has fingerless gloves? It's so he can still send around abusive messages on his phone.