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Lies,damn lies, and statistics. But their average tier 1 opposition was in the other direction by 0.75. Their overall average was a lower ranking due to playing 16 and 20 whereas we played 10 and 19. Their higher ranked opponents averaged more than ours and their lower ranked opponents lower...

Geez this thread contains some utter shite! The All Blacks played 3 tier 1 nations en-route to the final. The average tier 1 ranking was 6. (3,7,8) The total average world ranking of all opponents was 10.8 (3,7,8,11,16,20) Australia played 4 tier 1 nations with an average ranking of 6.75...

Don't sell yourselves short! I don't think there will be much in either game. A cracking weekend of rugby awaits.

Note the pointed use of the word "if" in my post. Very nervous about this one. But you're playing before us so I'll just have to hope the cards fall that way. If we bow out then I don't really care which of the SH teams wins. If it's you guys then at least you can say you knocked off the best...

Given that we have had more success against SAF than the ABs lately I should be supporting the South Africans in this one. But I wont be. Somehow winning a RWC without defeating the ABs along the way seems a bit hollow. They've been clearly the standout team for the last four years. If we make...

Didn't work out that way for France in 1999. Or Australia in 2003. Just sayin'...

So the IRB can read minds. And you can read body language. Straws and long bows all round. Time to move on to next week.

Interesting decision by the IRB. The laws are very clear and it all boils down to whether Phipps deliberately play d at the ball or not. Joubert thinks he didn't. The IRB thinks he did. This forum is split 50/50 depending on the colour of their jersey. The only person who knows for sure is...

Now I've heard it all. You're mentioning a cricket series where one team hurled a ball at 140+ km /hr directly at the body of players in a deliberate attempt to injure them as they realised the batsmen were more skilled and they had no other way of them getting out. And comparing it to a referee...

Nah - I'm pretty sure they were. Just in different colours. But I agree with the sentiment.

The Laws are what they are. They've been posted verbatim, analysed and the results are inconclusive. It was 50/50 and it went our way. Endless harping on wont change that. I'm going to invoke rule whatever it is and let you keep going around in circles.

In your opinion Obviously not in his - which is the more important one. Me thinks there are a few kiwis and Saffers on this site who would rather play Scotland or Argentina in the final and are a tad miffed..

He didn't make it with 100% certainty - never is. He made a judgement call based on what he saw - and given we cant agree with the benefit of repeated slow motion analysis then it definitely wasn't a howler. It could have gone either way - and thank Christ it went ours!! There have certainly...

Boring in, dropping binds and hinging to destabilise a scrum and milk a penalty, or diffuse a dominant shove is cynical play and extremely dangerous. A lot worse and more unsafe than slapping a ball down for a deliberate knock on. Carding players for dropping someone on their heads has all but...

How good is it to have a forward pack that is no longer the achillies heel of a team stacked with backline flair. Seems the pendulum is finally starting to swing the other way. Now if we could only get both firing at once.. Well done piggies!!

What if all the other surgeons had a mortality of 90% and the mortality without surgery was 100%. Then you'd have no choice but to take your chances. Do we know for sure there were other suitable applications? The Reds pr team are hardly going to say we searched far and wide but no-one was...

Well theres an entry from the sidelines that even Messam would be proud of. I suggest you reread my posts and maybe you will see that they were largely tongue in cheek. I apologise if there was any offence taken and I will be less subtle next time, maybe even with a little winky emoticon ;) . I...

Nah - I'll probably just get the sh#ts half way through the season and miss half the games despite paying for my membership. Just like 08/09. But don't tell Scoey or TWAS or I'll lose the moral high ground.

Affirmative. But obviously too soon.

I'm not taking any moral high ground. I'm just as pissed off as all of you. I just don't see how making the reds bankrupt on top of being poorly coached cellar dwellers will help. Besides - you'll renew your membership when the blood rage settles. You know you will...