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2015 IRB Junior Rugby World Cup - Italy

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Highlander35

Highlander35

Andrew Slack (58)
Fabulous. Horrendous result against the Baby Blacks got rid of whatever tiny chance there was for top 4, and the loss to Irish made me worry so hard that we'd be in another relegation scrap. Win gets us into the middle 6, and we come up against a relatively bad you guys.
 
FrontRowFan

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Herbert Moran (7)
Found this media release from the ARU:

Thursday 11 June, 2015
South Africa outclass Australia at World Championships

NOTE TO EDITORS: Image available for download here. Credit World Rugby.

South Africa has completely outplayed the Australian U20s to win 13-46 in the final round match of Pool B at the World Rugby U20 Championships on Thursday morning.

The result means that Australia is unable to progress to the semi-finals of the competition and will battle it out in the 5-8 playoffs for rankings for the 2016 World Rugby U20 Championship.

Australian U20s coach Adrian Thompson said:

“Full credit to South Africa for the way they played today. We certainly went into this match with confidence but a dominant South African forward pack prevented us from building any consistent momentum.

"Defensively South Africa constantly asked questions of us for the full 80 minutes and this cost us.

"We’ll regroup from the disappointment of missing out on the semi-finals and look towards our next challenge.”

Australia will next play Scotland on Tuesday 16th June at 12.30am AEST.

The Match:
A defensive lapse from Australia proved to be costly in the opening five minutes as South Africa used their powerful scrum to gain excellent field position. Jacques Vermeulen ran a great line to cut through the defence to score next to the posts. The successful conversion by Brandon Thompson took the score 0-7.

With little to show from the opening stanzas Australia finally was able to gain some possession with the Australian backs slicing through South Africa’s defence to escape their own defensive zone. Duncan Paia’aua and Andrew Kellaway combined well to create this space. South Africa infringed at the breakdown within kicking range and flyhalf Andrew Deegan converted to take the score to 3-7.

South Africa continued to keep the score advancing with Thompson converting a penalty when Australia didn’t roll away to take the score to 3-10.

The dominance of South Africa’s forwards continued to reap dividends with South Africa’s second try coming from forward play from the base of the ruck with Ox Nche diving over the line to score.

Thompson continued his perfect form with the boot to take the score to 3-17.

South Africa continued to place pressure on Australia as they remained within the young Aussie sides defensive zone for over ten minutes, with only desperate defence from Australia holding out the Junior Boks on several occasions.

Without being able to cross the young men in gold’s tryline during this period South African flyhalf Brandon Thompson gave his side points through his boot after a scrum penalty taking the score to 3-20.

Despite a late charge by Australia as they escaped their own half, asking some questions of South Africa, it kept the score at 3-20 at half time.

Australia started the second half in a commanding territorial position but were unable to put the foot down and score the try. A turn over to South Africa eventually allowed the Junior Boks’ Khanyo Ngcukana to score to take the score to 3-27.

As the pressure mounted the referee sent Australia’s prop, Cameron Orr to the sin bin as South Africa’s strong scrum continued to show its class.

Being reduced to 14 men created defensive issues for the young men in gold and this pressure proved to be too much as South African flyhalf, Brandon Thompson cut inside the Australian defence to score. Converting his own try, Thompson took the score to 3-34.

Jason Jenkins scored again for South Africa as the tiring Australian defence was unable to repel a confident South Africa.

Australia was finally able to register some reward for their efforts with a try. Wave after wave of Australia attackers pounded South Africa’s tryline with Duncan Paia’aua eventually able to navigate the traffic and crash over. This brought the score to 8-39.

Leolin Zas showed what a young talent he is when he gassed through the Australian defence to score taking the score to 46-8.

A late surge by Australia with South Africa having two men in the sin bin allowed captain Andrew Kellaway to score a consolation try, but it was not to be with the score finishing at 13-46.

Australia’s next challenge is Scotland in the 5-8 semi-finals on Tuesday.

South Africa 46 (Jacques Vermeulen, Ox Nche, Khanyo Ngcukana, Brandon Thompson, Jason Jenkins tries; Brandon Thompson 4 cons; Brandon Thompson 2 pens) defeated Australia 13 (Duncan Paia’aua, Andrew Kellaway tries; Andrew Deegan pens)

ENDS
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Hugh Jarse

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Inside Shoulder said:
Is there a reason no one is actually talking about the result?
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I think the game results are not being mentioned to keep a "cone of silence" for those who may have recorded the game for later viewing this evening. Work being the curse of the Leisure Class.

A match report has been posted on the ARU web site (rugby.com.au) if you want to read it.
 
FrontRowFan

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Herbert Moran (7)
Hugh Jarse said:
I think the game results are not being mentioned to keep a "cone of silence" for those who may have recorded the game for later viewing this evening. Work being the curse of the Leisure Class.

A match report has been posted on the ARU web site (rugby.com.au) if you want to read it.
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Hope the spoiler alert tactic in my post above above was sufficient protection for the working leisure class.

Edit: fixed the above thanks to Mr Jarse :)

Surely, however, those who don't want to know can stay off G&G and those who want to can discuss on this discussion forum??!
 
Inside Shoulder

Inside Shoulder

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Hugh Jarse said:
I think the game results are not being mentioned to keep a "cone of silence" for those who may have recorded the game for later viewing this evening. Work being the curse of the Leisure Class.

A match report has been posted on the ARU web site (rugby.com.au) if you want to read it.
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Thats why I asked, HJ. Don't want to spoil it for anyone.
But by this late in the day Im with BH.
When does the embargo expire?
 
Hugh Jarse

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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I would have thought the working leisure class would watch the recorded games as soon as they get home from the salt mines, so after dinner would be appropriate.

It is a fair point that one should stay off the thread if one doesn't want the cone of silence from an overnight match broken.

The other thing that can spoil things, and it occurs during the AUS v SAF game, is when the commentators talk about the result of an earlier game. Last night they televised the ENG v FRA, SAM v ITA and AUS v SAF game. I recorded all 3 on the IQ but watched the last game (AUS v SAF) first hoping to "stay in the dark" about the NZL v IRE and ENG v FRA games. No such luck.:mad:
 
Purce

Purce

Jim Clark (26)
Well, I just watched the game. What a clusterfuck. If that is the future of the Aus forward pack we should get used to 6th spot. Completely outplayed in every facet of the game, they didn't get close to parity at all. Lacking the basics, body height in contact (defense and ball carrying), ball handling, defensive alignment. However I thought Gun had a good game. Smallest forward out there and about the only one who could stop their forward runners at or behind the advantage line. The boys were trying hard but just no where near the same level. It looked like a training run at times through the piggies.

What has happened to Lolo?

Backs were better. A lot of drop ball though. Placid and Paia the best. They looked dangerous. Would have been a very different game if the forwards were evenly matched.

Hope they can turn it around for the next game.
 
Rugger Mate

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Allen Oxlade (6)
. Looked like our forwards were 10kg lighter per man than the advertised3 kg. our tight five were simply mauled, I thought back 3 in the pack went ok considering absolutely no pill, Agree with your assessment of backs , Duncan,placid and kelloway were outstanding on the scraps they could get there hands on. Deegon had a average game, hammered a couple of times, did well to get up after the last hit.[/quote]
 
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I doubt our TH will ever play again. He literally had the worst outing imaginable. Will have rattled him.

Deegan looks small, and I'm not sure if he will make it. Obviously he almost never got front foot ball.

Placid, Duncan, Tyson were outstanding. The experiment at 13 was a disaster!

All in all, it didn't look like a fair contest. I'm not sure what that means, but it wasn't good.
 
Inside Shoulder

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Nathan Sharpe (72)
Haven't seen it yet but I caution too much emphasis on 10 kgs per man differentials being seen as the issue.
Oz rugby has been going down this path for 20 years: assuming that because we concede an overall size advantage that must be the source of our downfall.
We must look to our fundamentals which are substandard. Our best players are not playing enough pressure rugby in which they are forced to make split second decisions many times over and required to think about the variables of every contest that arises in the game.
 
Hugh Jarse

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Soap Dodgers looked bored and disinterested in their Frogge match, which matches their form from the U20 6N competition. Give a Bokke an inch in a knock out game and they will help themselves to 7 points, every time.

Bokkie will easily account for their SF opposition to set up another NZL v SAF battle for the cup and that could go either way because, as you know, both the Bokke and the Kiwi lift for these games like no other. Past form and reputation mean nothing when Bokke and Kiwi play rugby against each other, whatever grade is being played.
 
Hugh Jarse

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Rocky Elsom (76)
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qwerty51 said:
Pretty funny that the coaches thought this was our best preparation.
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How so @Qwerty?
Previously it was rugby scrapbooks and behaviour at 3 selection camps and a game against PNG or similar that got you a ticket to the U20's.

Last year we had a National U20 competition, and some international (albeit rather weak) matches and a game against the Barbarians.
This year was very similar, although there was a fair dinkum tournament that included the Junior Darkness.

There may be issues with some individual selections and preparation done by the Squad under the Coaching staff, but it is hard to fault the preparation process that has been set up, particularly given the amount of dollars that are available to prepare a team.

It would be good to run a Super Rugby U20 competition in parallel with the Super Rugby Competition, or to have an extended Rugby Championship U20 tournament involving Saffers, Pumas, Darkness, Samoa, Japan, Fiji, Tonga and ourselves but the rivers of gold needed to fund that just don't exist.

Perhaps put the promising kids into State based, Super Rugby or NRC Franchise academies? The NSW U20 squad were effectively in precisely that from November to May.

Perhaps we need to give some of our opponents credit for the job they did.
 
Highlander35

Highlander35

Andrew Slack (58)
On attack, he got some balls that were either shovelling the pressure, or created a half break that saw him without the support, he didn't play badly relatively, but he was one of many with poor games.

On D, it was quite obvious he hadn't played much there. 13 is the lynchpin in defence, has to make the right decisions, marshal the troops in alignment, cover both tiht and out wide etc. It's a technically difficult position to play, especially against sides with fairly good attacks. Rebels with Ellison compared to Rebels without Ellison and all that.

It's not a failure, but not really a success either. Wouldn't be surprised if he's benched for the game against us in favour of DP & CM in the centers.
 
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