Reds V Chiefs Round 17 Sat 6th June
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Bob Davidson (42)
That's actually a huge decision for the points table and a home final.
Chiefs by my reckoning now on the same points as Highlanders, same # of wins, ahead on points difference by 1.
Merrow
Arch Winning (36)
Yeah sucks doesn't it
Gnostic
Mark Ella (57)
A bit hard to organise that clusterF*&^%. There was no base structure to organise anything off.
The one out pick and flop was just woeful, it did nothing to commit defenders and just took more out of the "attackers" if you can call an action that barely makes the gain line an attack.
waiopehu oldboy
Stirling Mortlock (74)
Yeah, I know it isn't easy, but they often had several phases in a row where he was standing way back while there was "headless chook hither-and-thither" runners. Someone has to take some control of it all, and he has a better eye and brain for it than most. As I said, I'm not blaming him for the shambles, but senior guys have to step up sometimes and try to fix the shit! His approach worked 3 -4 years ago, when there was structure and go-forward play, but it doesn't now.
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Mark Ella (57)
Reds just so woeful in attack and defence. The defence structure is just so porous 13 and out as it has been for two or three years.
In attack what were they doing? It isn't unlimited tackle league boys, try creating some space and supporting the ball carrier.
Stiles has done some wonderful work with the the set pieces, and that is the one bright point for the Reds from this game.
Only five Reds IMO can be sure of a ticket to London :- Slipper, Holmes, Hanson, Simmons and Cooper. Of them only Slipper and maybe Simmons will be starters.
Genia should be in the Lounge waving them good bye and good luck. His passing is average, his kicking terrible and directly led to a try against the Reds.
In attack what were they doing? It isn't unlimited tackle league boys, try creating some space and supporting the ball carrier.
Stiles has done some wonderful work with the the set pieces, and that is the one bright point for the Reds from this game.
Only five Reds IMO can be sure of a ticket to London :- Slipper, Holmes, Hanson, Simmons and Cooper. Of them only Slipper and maybe Simmons will be starters.
Genia should be in the Lounge waving them good bye and good luck. His passing is average, his kicking terrible and directly led to a try against the Reds.
FrankLind
Colin Windon (37)
I'd say the Canes will rest players + they have nothing to play for + teh Chiefs are at home.
I think both sides will win.
There is a good Rugby premise called "contract football" essentially it means you don't pass it to someone in a worse position than yourself (Cooper should remember this rule) and you always work to get into a better position than the ball carrier (the Reds team should remember this part of the rule)
Typos by SwiftKey, errors in tone by me
Pfitzy
George Gregan (70)
Yeah I'm a Tahs fan, and I remember what happened when we rested players on our way to the finals...
Dismal Pillock
David Codey (61)
Massive pride on D from the Chiefs, esp. those loosies, wow, Cane, Messam and Leitch
Pulu might be a clot-brained hungus at times, driving everyone insane, but the sort of ticker on display to clock a flying Genia on the stroke of halftime, when he was over the goalline, to dislodge the ball and save a dead cert try, might be what gets him back in the AB's
Bieber with two comically nonsense touches then he vanished.
In summary, The Reds, with much pre-match heraldry and self-acclaim, sweep the bride over the threshold then cannot maintain the tumescence to consummate the deal.
Pulu might be a clot-brained hungus at times, driving everyone insane, but the sort of ticker on display to clock a flying Genia on the stroke of halftime, when he was over the goalline, to dislodge the ball and save a dead cert try, might be what gets him back in the AB's
Bieber with two comically nonsense touches then he vanished.
In summary, The Reds, with much pre-match heraldry and self-acclaim, sweep the bride over the threshold then cannot maintain the tumescence to consummate the deal.
Gnostic
Mark Ella (57)
In which case he would have been tackled with the ball nearly everytime he got it as the structures at the Reds are just so poor. There are very few options even off first phase.
FrankLind
Colin Windon (37)
But it doesn't matter to the Canes. They are top regardless.
Ash
Michael Lynagh (62)
Reds support play on attack is just horrible. It's not that they can't find space, it's just that they are incapable of doing anything with it. Plenty of wide Cooper passes gave his guys oodles of space and time to work with and all they could do was a big fat nothing. That and lack of an apparent pattern for the forwards to work to just makes it hard for the Reds to do much at all. Hunt at 13 is just meh on top of all that, and JOC (James O'Connor) is a shadow of what he was a two years ago.
The Reds defence is just utter crap too. Completely all over the shop, not manning up short sides, not coming up in a line, not drifting when required.
The amazing thing for me is that the Reds didn't score despite so many opportunities - Genia three times coming close, a 5m scrum that they lost all momentum after moving forward a metre, Turner repeatedly unable to beat a man one on one when it matters.
The Reds defence is just utter crap too. Completely all over the shop, not manning up short sides, not coming up in a line, not drifting when required.
The amazing thing for me is that the Reds didn't score despite so many opportunities - Genia three times coming close, a 5m scrum that they lost all momentum after moving forward a metre, Turner repeatedly unable to beat a man one on one when it matters.
Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
That game really summed up the Reds year. No penetration, no organisation, just a whole lot of good players running around as if they met in the car park before the match.
I've seen you make a number of completely outlandish posts so far this weekend. Just pure one sentence statements of supposed 'fact' with now attempt to back it up.
And on each time they've been pretty off the mark. He's been our best finisher for 2 seasons. He's never been a stepper or bulldozer. Just a good finisher. And he still has that.
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