Super Rugby 2022

[PhilClinton]

That's not how it's going to work. Anyone arriving from Aus after 16 Jan who's double-vaxxed & returned a negative test within 72 hours of departure won't have to go through MIQ at all. Home quarantine applies to arrivals/ returnees from elsewhere (but still with the double-vax & negative test requirements) from 16 Feb.

I just read through the media release. It says that applies only to New Zealand residents and other 'eligible travellers' and that other foreign nationals will need to wait until April for the same rules to apply.

There isn't any mention I can find that says Australians fall under the 'eligible travellers' banner, as of yet.

Reconnecting New Zealand — the next steps

Fully vaccinated New Zealanders and other eligible travellers can travel to New Zealand from Australia without staying in MIQ from 11:59pm on 16 January 2022.

covid19.govt.nz

 

[Adam84]

That's not how it's going to work. Anyone arriving from Aus after 16 Jan who's double-vaxxed & returned a negative test within 72 hours of departure won't have to go through MIQ at all. Home quarantine applies to arrivals/ returnees from elsewhere (but still with the double-vax & negative test requirements) from 16 Feb.

Nah home self-isolation applies to those even arriving from Australia.

For those not going through MIQ, they require a pre departure test, a test on arrival, self isolation at home for 7 days and a final test on day 7 before being allowed in the community.

 

[Adam84]

Is that confirmed even for Australian teams/Australians in general? I thought they'd look at bringing back some type of bubble situation

Sports minister said he won’t be applying for exemptions for sporting teams

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

I just read through the media release. It says that applies only to New Zealand residents and other 'eligible travellers' and that other foreign nationals will need to wait until April for the same rules to apply.

There isn't any mention I can find that says Australians fall under the 'eligible travellers' banner, as of yet.

Reconnecting New Zealand — the next steps

Fully vaccinated New Zealanders and other eligible travellers can travel to New Zealand from Australia without staying in MIQ from 11:59pm on 16 January 2022.

covid19.govt.nz

Nah home self-isolation applies to those even arriving from Australia.

For those not going through MIQ, they require a pre departure test, a test on arrival, self isolation at home for 7 days and a final test on day 7 before being allowed in the community.

My understanding from listening to Hipkins was that "eligible people" includes Australians. I'm sure we'll get clarification/ confirmation of that in the next little while.

 

[Dan54]

I am guessing that eligible people will be allowed to stay in a bubble or some such thing.

Why? Are they still lagging in vaccinations?

About 90% rate, is the aim by xmas form what I understand. About 85% now (I think)

 

[PhilClinton]

My understanding from listening to Hipkins was that "eligible people" includes Australians. I'm sure we'll get clarification/ confirmation of that in the next little while.

NZ Rugby on the front foot already saying the new rules will impact Super Rugby and they will go straight into discussions with the government as well as RA and other governing bodies, seems fairly clear the exemptions are only for NZ residents coming from Australia and no other foreigners until April.

 

[Sully]

Still nearly 3 months to sort something out.

 

[Dan54]

Just out of interest, what are rules for going into Aus from NZ, I haven't read anything.

 

[Wilson]

Just out of interest, what are rules for going into Aus from NZ, I haven't read anything.

Has been free entry since November 1st:

Travel from New Zealand to Australia​

Quarantine-free travel from New Zealand to Australia has recommenced.


To travel quarantine free, you'll need to have:

• been in either Australia or New Zealand for the 14 days prior to departure,
• proof of a negative COVID-19 (PCR) test taken within 3 days of your departure flight to Australia, and
• evidence of full vaccination against COVID-19 consistent with the definition of fully vaccinated with a TGA approved or recognised vaccine.

Check the state and territory entry requirements as they may differ between each state and territory.

There are still some restrictions at a state level, but WA is the only one that could still be a problem by the time Super Rugby kicks off and even that seems unlikely.

 

[RugbyReg]

Just out of interest, what are rules for going into Aus from NZ, I haven't read anything.

if your name is Savea, Ione or Barrett you'll be turned around at the airport

 

[Adam84]

NZ Rugby on the front foot already saying the new rules will impact Super Rugby and they will go straight into discussions with the government as well as RA and other governing bodies, seems fairly clear the exemptions are only for NZ residents coming from Australia and no other foreigners until April.

surely this was something NZRU had already had discussions with the government about when planning the Super Rugby Pacific draw.

 

[Sully]

surely this was something NZRU had already had discussions with the government about when planning the Super Rugby Pacific draw.

According to the article I read, not really but 'it's a priority'.

 

[PhilClinton]

surely this was something NZRU had already had discussions with the government about when planning the Super Rugby Pacific draw.

You would hope they'd have addressed it to a point, but honestly, I think this announcement surprised a lot of people. Super Rugby not supposed to start until mid-Feb next year, by then all the competing countries will be high 90s vaccinated. They probably assumed, like many others, that travel would be fully open between these countries.

 

[Dan54]

Has been free entry since November 1st:


There are still some restrictions at a state level, but WA is the only one that could still be a problem by the time Super Rugby kicks off and even that seemg on news too

Has been free entry since November 1st:


There are still some restrictions at a state level, but WA is the only one that could still be a problem by the time Super Rugby kicks off and even that seems unlikely.

Cheers I thought Queensland was still out of bounds too, but haven't been checking.

 

[Derpus]

You would hope they'd have addressed it to a point, but honestly, I think this announcement surprised a lot of people. Super Rugby not supposed to start until mid-Feb next year, by then all the competing countries will be high 90s vaccinated. They probably assumed, like many others, that travel would be fully open between these countries.

That would be a wild assumption to predicate a competition on. You would definitely check.

 

[zer0]

Hard to do when more and more government policy is seemingly being made up more and more on the fly, unfortunately. If it's anything like their most recent plan for changing restrictions then they'll drop the requirements by January/February.

 

[Wilson]

Cheers I thought Queensland was still out of bounds too, but haven't been checking.

As it currently stands you can come in fine from the South Island only, then once the 80% double dose mark is reached quarantine free travel is available from all safe zone countries (New Zealand is the only one). As long as New Zealand remains a safe zone it'll just be treated like any other Australian state.

 

[Adam84]

Hard to do when more and more government policy is seemingly being made up more and more on the fly, unfortunately. If it's anything like their most recent plan for changing restrictions then they'll drop the requirements by January/February.

It would be easier to achieve in New Zealand then it is Australia, at least in NZ rugby Union is the national sport, Super Rugby the primary winter code and covid quarantine requirements dictated by the federal government and not individuals states.

If they had checked with the government and there was any ever any doubt they should have rejigged the draw so it was similar to last year with domestic games followed by Tran-Tasman component to buy themselves time.

 

[waiopehu oldboy]

Hard to do when more and more government policy is seemingly being made up more and more on the fly, unfortunately. If it's anything like their most recent plan for changing restrictions then they'll drop the requirements by January/February.

Or next Monday

Leader of the Opposition is gunna have a field day with this cluster fuck. Leader of the Nats also

 

[PhilClinton]

It would be easier to achieve in New Zealand then it is Australia, at least in NZ rugby Union is the national sport, Super Rugby the primary winter code and covid quarantine requirements dictated by the federal government and not individuals states.

If they had checked with the government and there was any ever any doubt they should have rejigged the draw so it was similar to last year with domestic games followed by Tran-Tasman component to buy themselves time.

Yes I imagine there reached a line in the sand, where even with uncertainty on travel, the Super Rugby comp needed to start calling shotgun on a couple of dates, to ensure they had access to the stadiums they need, and didn't clash with the other codes booking the same space in Australia.

I have faith they'll be able to rejig the draw to make it all work.