Super Rugby Round 2: Waratahs v Stormers
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Strewthcobber
Andrew Slack (58)
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Steve Williams (59)
The back row and front row should improve with Dempsey, Kepu, and Latu returning. 2nd row is the real worry for the Tahs, potentially Hanigan could slot in there I guess but it’s nothing like having Coleman, Philip or an Arnold. Tahs will be relying heavily on Hooper, Foley, Beale and Folau for points this year and will probably try to play up tempo to compensate for smaller forward pack.
WorkingClassRugger
David Codey (61)
I also stand by my assessment of the front row pre-game. I wasn't proven wrong.
Yeah but Holloway looks good at NRC level and plays pretty wide and loose. He's a big unit and would serve the Tahs better if he was playing tighter and "heavier" I think. Plus, he has been used more as an impact player which flatters to deceive at times. I think he could be very good for them, but he hasn't really laid down a big marker to prove it yet. Not to mention all his injury / rehab time. Hopefully this year is a breakout year for him. Wells looked a bit "meh" tonight.
WorkingClassRugger
David Codey (61)
He couldn't do worse than Staniforth. An absolute non-entity taking the ball into contact tonight. Same as in the NRC. At least Holloway can perform a some level.
dru
Tim Horan (67)
OK so my rules understanding is not there. He is charging forward from the throw. At the catch he is 5-6m behind.
It really didnt have an impact though.
More confusing - is Roach in or not in the line out? If he is on side why isnt Hooper?
Yeah, but Staniforth plays lock, Holloway 8, not interchangeable I think.
dru
Tim Horan (67)
Depends on the 8 doesnt it? Higgers is playing 8. He could play lock even if a bit short.
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Steve Williams (59)
Wells is too good for Shute Shield but not impactful at Super level. He’d be a solid NRC player but he didn’t actually play in that last year. Holloway has more to offer for me long term (and I hear Wells maybe going to Wales anyhow in the near future).
Strewthcobber
Andrew Slack (58)
Roach was standing at reciever (half back) and entered the lineout to catch the ball. The lineout isn't over and the ball doesn't cross the 15m line so Hooper can't be in the position he is to secure the ruck (he's the first Tah there by almost 10m)
Having said that - it's never penalised - which is why I said it was inevitable
formerflanker
Ken Catchpole (46)
Pre-game interview with Gibson saw him promising different tactics for the forwards since they were a lighter, more mobile pack than the Stormers.
I didn't see any new tactics. I was expecting innovation but it was all out of the normal playbook.
I didn't see any new tactics. I was expecting innovation but it was all out of the normal playbook.
formerflanker
Ken Catchpole (46)
(he's the first Tah there by almost 10m)
He's just quick, ref.
He's just quick, ref.
WorkingClassRugger
David Codey (61)
You could teach Holloway the position. I have serious doubt Staniforth could ever learn how to be more effective in the contact.
WorkingClassRugger
David Codey (61)
He's the only Tahs forward who plays with the requisite urgency at that level so it's not beyond the realms of possibility that he could just be the only one busting his arse to be effective in play.
At Super level? Yeah, nah.
WorkingClassRugger
David Codey (61)
No. They're different positions, is what I am saying, pretty clearly actually. You're just inferring that I said that, when I didn't. I don't think Holloway is / will be a good Super Rugby lock.
Up the Guts
Steve Williams (59)
Hanigan could play 2nd row in place of Staniforth with some combination of Holloway/Wells/Dempsey (when fit) playing 6 and 8.
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Desmond Connor (43)
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