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Wallabies 2023

PhilClinton

John Hipwell (52)
I mean seriously, the Suaalli deal was inevitable, it has probably just happened earlier than a few people expected - it was spoken about constantly and the fact that Joseph has a specific clause in his NRL deal that lets him negotiate his contract every year made it very likely that something like this was only ever a year or two away from happening.

Yes, it is a lot of money, but the reality is this is probably what it's going to take to sign/retain the top tier talents going forward. If anything, I'd be expecting RA will likely need to stump this up for Jorgensen on his next deal if things keep going well.
 

Wilson

Simon Poidevin (60)
Was about to make the same comment. Larkham was undercooked with injuries. Berrick surprised me in that tournament, thought he filled in well. Did we only bring 2 5/8ths that time?
Giteau and Huxley were both there and could cover 10, but yeah Larkham and Barnes were the only specialist 10s.
 

SouthernX

Peter Johnson (47)
I'd be expecting Rugby Australia will likely need to stump this up for Jorgensen on his next deal if things keep going well.

I think @Marce suggested that Jorgensen is now firmly in the roosters sights for a tit for tat poaching war.

personally - let Jorgensen (and any other outside back) leave If they believe the green is grasser in rugby league. The moment Rugby league goes after a Wilson/Gleeson (world class skills in a rugby league prop body) that’s when I will get upset.

if you weigh 110kg+ or taller then 6 ft 6 and you are notably known as one of the best players at your position in rugby then we must keep these unique rugby physiques at all cost.
 

qwerty51

Stirling Mortlock (74)
The Waratahs have tabled a multi-year extension offer to teen whiz Max Jorgensen and welcomed the signing of Joseph Sua'ali'i, declaring there is room for two superstars in the NSW back line.

Jorgensen is only three games into a two-season deal and has similar dual-code origins to Sua'ali'i. The Waratahs have made it clear the signing of the Roosters centre/winger is no threat to their other schoolboy prodigy, offering to extend Jorgensen well beyond Sua'ali'i’s arrival.
I reckon Sua'ali'i would play 13 with Jorgenson at 15.
 

rodha

Dave Cowper (27)
I mean seriously, the Suaalli deal was inevitable, it has probably just happened earlier than a few people expected - it was spoken about constantly and the fact that Joseph has a specific clause in his NRL deal that lets him negotiate his contract every year made it very likely that something like this was only ever a year or two away from happening.

Yes, it is a lot of money, but the reality is this is probably what it's going to take to sign/retain the top tier talents going forward. If anything, I'd be expecting Rugby Australia will likely need to stump this up for Jorgensen on his next deal if things keep going well.

This move shows RA are more focused on fluff than substance.

I wonder if Nucifora would have agreed to come back for $1.6million?
 

PhilClinton

John Hipwell (52)
This move shows Rugby Australia are more focused on fluff than substance.

I wonder if Nucifora would have agreed to come back for $1.6million?

I'm convinced your account is fully for gee ups now, either that or you're a semi-self aware AI program written by Nucifora.

Anyway - you're not the only person in the 'I think this is a bad idea' bucket.

What makes you think Suaalli is fluff though? Genuinely curious how the nay sayers can say signing a 19yr old who's not only playing 1st grade league, but actually dominating, is a fluff player?
 

dusk

Ron Walden (29)
I reckon Sua'ali'i would play 13 with Jorgenson at 15.
Exactly, i rate Sua'ali'i as a potential full-back option but i think Jorgo is clearly the smarter footballer and just is a natural full-back. Sua'ali'i played both wing, out-side center and a little bit of fullback throughout his schoolboy (2017 - 2019 - he did not play for kings in 2k20 and 2k21 due to his league contract) years and even made the Aus 2019 u18s schoolboy team as a winger at only 16 years of age.

Potential Waratahs backline if he joined the squad right now would look like this (imo)

10. Donaldson
11. Pietch
12. Foketi
13. Sua'ali'i
14. Marky Mark (Nawaqanitawase)
15. Jorgensen

That has to be the strongest backline in super rugby.
 

KOB1987

Rod McCall (65)

Exactly, i rate Sua'ali'i as a potential full-back option but i think Jorgo is clearly the smarter footballer and just is a natural full-back. Sua'ali'i played both wing, out-side center and a little bit of fullback throughout his schoolboy (2017 - 2019 - he did not play for kings in 2k20 and 2k21 due to his league contract) years and even made the Aus 2019 u18s schoolboy team as a winger at only 16 years of age.

Potential Waratahs backline if he joined the squad right now would look like this (imo)

10. Donaldson
11. Pietch
12. Foketi
13. Sua'ali'i
14. Marky Mark (Nawaqanitawase) (Nawaqanitawase)
15. Jorgensen

That has to be the strongest backline in super rugby.
Not quite
 

Wallaby Man

Trevor Allan (34)
Is that on the players, because as I see it it’s more on the coaches and Rugby Australia. By the comments on Facebook and general outrage I’m hearing chatting to people you blokes seem to have the minority opinion on this $1.6 million deal.
Comments on Facebook haha. Social media isn’t any sort of reflection of the real world, nobody goes on these platforms to write anything positive.

A restaurant could give 100 people a meal, 60 of them would enjoy it, 30 wouldn’t be overly fussed and 10 would hate it. 5 of those 10 people might make comment on the internet and prob 2 from the 60 that enjoyed it would comment positively.
 

LeCheese

Ken Catchpole (46)
Comments on Facebook haha. Social media isn’t any sort of reflection of the real world, nobody goes on these platforms to write anything positive.

A restaurant could give 100 people a meal, 60 of them would enjoy it, 30 wouldn’t be overly fussed and 10 would hate it. 5 of those 10 people might make comment on the internet and prob 2 from the 60 that enjoyed it would comment positively.
Even with that, the sentiment on socials is no where near as overwhelmingly-negative as was implied - I've seen many supportive / understanding comments from both League and Union fans across League, Union, and general sporting outlets.
 

Jimmyjam

Darby Loudon (17)
I think what most people are forgetting about the Suáali'i deal is that they (ARU etc) won't be paying him a cent for at least 18mths.

In the last week he has probably almost covered a years worth salary via free marketing, eyeballs and general visibility of Rugby Australia which enhances sponsor returns, gate revenue, junior registrations etc etc etc.

IMO already a bloody brilliant investment!!! Even my most diehard NRL mates are talking about it.................
 

Highlander35

Andrew Slack (58)
Rumours that the board, while happy to have him on signed, sealed and delivered, are not particularly happy with the unilateral manner in which the approach was made.
 

For the Love of the Game

Stan Wickham (3)
Quade will be our number 1 option at the RWC, I don't think he will be available for the 5 tests in the lead up. Carton Gordon should get a crack for all 5.
Options for the RWC (In this order) Quade, Gordon Foley.
Think we always get ahead of ourselves and especially so when it comes to young 10's. 6/7 months ago everyone was pushing for Pasitoa to go straight into Wallabies camp, then Edmed and now Gordon. Tried Lolesio and I think he is still recovering from the shock. Put Donaldson on to kick for a win against Italy with minutes to spare, not doing his confidence any favours. Lets just face facts, and maybe I am just a bias Quade and Reds fan but looking a bit further than just Aus v NZ teams I think only Quade and with a slight change JOC (James O'Connor) can stand up against the likes of Johnny Sexton, Handre Pollard and Ntamack playing behind arguably the best packs in the world. Let the kids grow up and prepare them for 2027 on home soil. Stop destroying their confidence and careers before it even started.
 
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