NSW AAGPS 2020

[The Hammer]

It seems it’s the day for new users, so I might as well throw my hat in the ring.

Does anyone have any details regarding whether games will be streamed online in the absence of crowds?

There’s been talks but I am yet to hear anything coming from concrete sources.

Hammer.

 

[set_play]

Over the last few years, there has been a lot of talk about developing a new divisional comp that groups 1sts team schools, and quite possibly by age group, performance/strength by school, and a relegation system that adjusts teams based on annual results.
That also includes a winner within those divisions of the existing associations, along with a an ultimate winner in each division.
ie the very best of each age group.
These divisions could go broad which may include the GPS,CAS,ISA etc schools.
Similar to the NZ schools format, and at last check NZ schools and seniors perform quite well.

Others thoughts.

In the words of Tevye, “tradition... tradition”

 

[thedutchoven]

In the words of Tevye, “tradition. tradition”

Ever since the AAGPS meeting held at Gunsler's cafe, new Circular Quay, on 30 March 1892 much hasn't changed.

Other than TAS being co-ed.

TDO.

 

[The Metre Eater]

This could be dangerous

And by dangerous I mean for the All Blacks.

Would be a great idea if officials could get all schools to buy into it. Could see the best teams in In AAGPS playing the best sports high schools in Sydney. Could be an unreal spectacle and I dare say that it would even improve the grass roots as well as overall player retention.

If you have any articles talking about this, please share.

Hammer.

Would love to get some more opinions on this from the broader forum community. I, for one, value the tradition and rivalry within the AAGPS, it it would be dearly missed if this route was followed.
That being said, everyone would benefit from the progression of Australian schoolboy rugby, which I do believe all teams would.
One issue I see coming up here is the discrepancies between opens teams and lower age groups - perhaps only the opens and 16’s should be subject to this competition if this was to be pursued. Perhaps one could even institute a policy similar to the subbies system, with multiple divisions of NSW school teams, with promotions and relegations being decided by the success of the whole team, not just the 1st XV.
Would love to hear some other opinions on this.

It seems it’s the day for new users, so I might as well throw my hat in the ring.

Does anyone have any details regarding whether games will be streamed online in the absence of crowds?

Firstly, welcome to the forum. As a new member myself, I know the benefit of being warmly welcomed, so let me be the first to extend a hand of forthcoming.
From all reports, AAGPS competition games will be streamed. However, I am yet to receive information as to what platform this will be commenced on, and how one would access it. As passionate rugby supporters, I am sure we all share the same excitement to watch some good, running rugby. I will be sure to let you know any more information that comes my way.

Best wishes
TME

 

[The Honey Badger]

Couldn’t help but think about how spectacular an AAGPS competition with all teams being competitive would be.

If Grammar, SBHS and Shore can somehow become competitive at a 1st XV level, it truly would be an unreal competition, and cement GPS rugby as one of the premier schoolboy competitions throughout the whole of Australia.

Hammer.

Easy fixed, stop schools from playing silly buggers

 

[the discreet poo]

It seems it’s the day for new users, so I might as well throw my hat in the ring.

Does anyone have any details regarding whether games will be streamed online in the absence of crowds?

set_play,

I believe that games tapes will be accessible via Hudl, uploaded following the match. However as of yet, I haven't been informed of a streaming platform allowing for spectators such as you and I, to view the current climate of schoolboy rugby live, under such extraordinary times...

Warmest regards,

the discreet poo.

 

[thedutchoven]

Warm welcome to you, alias: "The Discreet Poo".

By question of the name, did you get called that on the field?

TDO.

 

[Up and In]

As a History Teacher, with a particular passion for Military History, I can't resist the opportunity to state that Admiral Yamoto was responsible for the Brilliantly planned and executed Japanese attack on Pearl Harbour. He was killed about a year later when the Americans used Signal intercepts to plot his positioning, that enabled them to shoot him down. This Japanese genius, is now being applied to the management of Japanese Rugby.

With all due respect, "a History teacher with a particular passion for Military History" should know the difference between Yamoto and Yamamoto. It's OK to offer an opinion, but please don't do so on the back of professing to be an academic when the basic tenets of expression suggest otherwise, as done many times on this forum (eg., previous recent post using "versing" as a verb - since deleted - is one among many supportive examples). The other issue I have with your recent posts is the Newington rugby result last week, and the impact that athletics had on on this. You ignore the fact that Grammar competed in the same GPS Athletics carnival, and that they too were severely understrength. Given comparative talent measures (numbers and depth), I would have assumed that Grammar's rugby withdrawals would have had a greater impact on their ability to compete at the top level than Newington's. I reckon even legendary Sportsmasters Masher and Hinksy would nod in agreement.

 

[The Metre Eater]

With all due respect, "a History teacher with a particular passion for Military History" should know the difference between Yamoto and Yamamoto. It's OK to offer an opinion, but please don't do so on the back of professing to be an academic when the basic tenets of expression suggest otherwise, as done many times on this forum (eg., previous recent post using "versing" as a verb - since deleted - is one among many supportive examples). The other issue I have with your recent posts is the Newington rugby result last week, and the impact that athletics had on on this. You ignore the fact that Grammar competed in the same GPS Athletics carnival, and that they too were severely understrength. Given comparative talent measures (numbers and depth), I would have assumed that Grammar's rugby withdrawals would have had a greater impact on their ability to compete at the top level than Newington's. I reckon even legendary Sportsmasters Masher and Hinksy would nod in agreement.

You Grammar boys are really showing your nastiness here. B&W was taking the lead off a mistake I had made, confusing Yamoto with Gen. Yamamoto.
Please treat members of this forum with the due courtesy and respect they deserve in future.

 

[thedutchoven]

With all due respect, "a History teacher with a particular passion for Military History" should know the difference between Yamoto and Yamamoto. It's OK to offer an opinion, but please don't do so on the back of professing to be an academic when the basic tenets of expression suggest otherwise, as done many times on this forum (eg., previous recent post using "versing" as a verb - since deleted - is one among many supportive examples). The other issue I have with your recent posts is the Newington rugby result last week, and the impact that athletics had on on this. You ignore the fact that Grammar competed in the same GPS Athletics carnival, and that they too were severely understrength. Given comparative talent measures (numbers and depth), I would have assumed that Grammar's rugby withdrawals would have had a greater impact on their ability to compete at the top level than Newington's. I reckon even legendary Sportsmasters Masher and Hinksy would nod in agreement.

Too Long didn't read.. Lost me at the first half.

Yours cordially,

TDO.

 

[thedutchoven]

You Grammar boys are really showing your nastiness here. B&W was taking the lead off a mistake I had made, confusing Yamoto with Gen. Yamamoto.
Please treat members of this forum with the due courtesy and respect they deserve in future.

Agree TME,

Lets not get our knickers in a twist.

TDO.

 

[the discreet poo]

Warm welcome to you, alias: "The Discreet Poo".

By question of the name, did you get called that on the field?

TDO.

TDO,

indeed, engraved onto the back of my graduation jumper in 2007, 'the discreet poo' was a nickname given to me through the combination of my quick yet silent feet on the pitch and my golden skin complexion. Christ I miss it...

Regards,

the discreet poo.

 

[WLF]

Evening Alias "WLF",

I believe the Joker has stated his thoughts strongly on not combining the GPS and CAS. Which are keeping them separate.

I do like the idea, yet these boys only have so much rugby and such little time on their hands. I feel as though there wouldn't be enough room to fit these competitions in.

Do not forget we do have Australian Schoolboys playing internationally, also never forget the broken 7 year drought against New Zealand.

If we were to adopt this how would you fit it in? Thoughts?

TDO.

Yep, this is NOT a new topic and the Jokers views, and many others, are well noted against such a new venture, and for traditions sake that's understood, and tradition is important.

A view is to have divisions that group relevant performing schools in divisions, possibly by age group or maybe it starts at a certain age level, with a promotion/relegation each year.

The current trials period, where typically the GPS play the CAS and ISA schools, then the GPS play their own 5 GPS games, could become a 12-16 game comp that covers all the games of top 6-8 schools, likewise in the other divisions.
Within those 12-16 games the best performers of the GPS ,CAS,ISA etc win their own associations comp, same as current, but in the end, there is an ultimate winner. (which has often been a discussion, as to which school is really the best)

Such a grouping should also make games closer, more enjoyable ( as opposed to being flogged each week), and ideally safer for those involved (as teams are more evenly matched).

I am a CAS person, but hope this just opens up discussion.

 

[the Business]

With all due respect, "a History teacher with a particular passion for Military History" should know the difference between Yamoto and Yamamoto. It's OK to offer an opinion, but please don't do so on the back of professing to be an academic when the basic tenets of expression suggest otherwise, as done many times on this forum (eg., previous recent post using "versing" as a verb - since deleted - is one among many supportive examples). The other issue I have with your recent posts is the Newington rugby result last week, and the impact that athletics had on on this. You ignore the fact that Grammar competed in the same GPS Athletics carnival, and that they too were severely understrength. Given comparative talent measures (numbers and depth), I would have assumed that Grammar's rugby withdrawals would have had a greater impact on their ability to compete at the top level than Newington's. I reckon even legendary Sportsmasters Masher and Hinksy would nod in agreement.

Good evening Up and In

There’s really no need to become so barbarous to other members of the forum.

This place is somewhere we can share our love of the AAGPS competition, not one to take subtle digs at others.

Please resort to “facebook messenger” if you have any personal queries to raise or I will report you to the inquisitors.

I digress,

My current fear is the 30mm of rain the bureau of meteorology has forecast for the coming Friday and Saturday, something that can significantly effect the fields of our hallowed colleges.

Does anyone have any further information on GPS policy during wet weather conditions.

Kindest of regards

The Business

 

[The Hammer]

Yep, this is NOT a new topic and the Jokers views, and many others, are well noted against such a new venture, and for traditions sake that's understood, and tradition is important.

A view is to have divisions that group relevant performing schools in divisions, possibly by age group or maybe it starts at a certain age level, with a promotion/relegation each year.

The current trials period, where typically the GPS play the CAS and ISA schools, then the GPS play their own 5 GPS games, could become a 12-16 game comp that covers all the games of top 6-8 schools, likewise in the other divisions.
Within those 12-16 games the best performers of the GPS ,CAS,ISA etc win their own associations comp, same as current, but in the end, there is an ultimate winner. (which has often been a discussion, as to which school is really the best)

Such a grouping should also make games closer, more enjoyable ( as opposed to being flogged each week), and ideally safer for those involved (as teams are more evenly matched).

I am a CAS person, but hope this just opens up discussion.

Whilst my head tells me “we must better the grassroots through a combined schoolboy competition based on team ability”,

My heart is telling me “what about the tradition, what about Riverview vs Joeys”

I cannot comment on my feelings thus far, as my heart and mind are torn.

I think that long term for the betterment of the game, we must pursue a combined competition, but I’m a conservative at heart and would hate to see the abandonment of a competition that has withstood the test of time.

Hammer.

 

[thedutchoven]

Well said, alias: "WLF".

Just those 12-16 game tournaments are gigantic compared to the five round GPS competition.

Yes if you can pull it off with costs, injuries, commitments. It would be fantastic, high quality footy, more even match ups and more importantly everyone has a game on the weekend, no byes or internal matches.

Also the time period of this season would be over half a year, ruling summer sport choices out.
(Would be great), yet schools have obligations to offer these sports at these schools (i.e. funding, parents involvement, old boys associations and the like).

A fantastic article on this: https://nsw.rugby/news/2019/11/08/schools-rugby-inter-association-competition-isa-gps-cas-round-five

TDO.

 

[thedutchoven]

Good evening Up and In

There’s really no need to become so barbarous to other members of the forum.

This place is somewhere we can share our love of the AAGPS competition, not one to take subtle digs at others.

Please resort to “facebook messenger” if you have any personal queries to raise or I will report you to the inquisitors.

I digress,

My current fear is the 30mm of rain the bureau of meteorology has forecast for the coming Friday and Saturday, something that can significantly effect the fields of our hallowed colleges.

Does anyone have any further information on GPS policy during wet weather conditions.

Kindest of regards

The Business

Evening, alias "The Business"

Would love to see these games on regardless of the weather. Time to get the jerseys dirty i say.

Wouldn't hurt to have some good mileage on their respective fields, not like they're being used by many teams every weekend and give the groundsmen some work.

Where is this 3rd XV clash? Unsure if at View or Joeys.

TDO.

 

[The Hammer]

Evening, alias "The Business"

Would love to see these games on regardless of the weather. Time to get the jerseys dirty i say.

Wouldn't hurt to have some good mileage on their respective fields, not like they're being used by many teams every weekend and give the groundsmen some work.

Where is this 3rd XV clash? Unsure if at View or Joeys.

TDO.

TDO, it’s Hammer here.

Whilst unsure on the whereabouts of the game this weekend, I couldn’t agree more with you on your comment about “getting the jerseys dirty”.

I’m sure the lads from any school would be happy to play through hurricane Katrina it’s been that long since they’ve been out on the paddock.

And for the grounds men? Considering they haven’t had much to do in the past 3-4 months, they should be fine with a week or two of difficult upkeep.

Looking forward to it.

Hammer.

 

[Ace Ventura]

TDO, it’s Hammer here.

Whilst unsure on the whereabouts of the game this weekend, I couldn’t agree more with you on your comment about “getting the jerseys dirty”.

I’m sure the lads from any school would be happy to play through hurricane Katrina it’s been that long since they’ve been out on the paddock.

And for the grounds men? Considering they haven’t had much to do in the past 3-4 months, they should be fine with a week or two of difficult upkeep.

Looking forward to it.

Hammer.

gents - the Joeys v View 3rd XV game this weekend is at Riverview. All other games at HH (Joeys v Scots)

 

[ItsNotPink]

Evening, alias "The Business"

Where is this 3rd XV clash? Unsure if at View or Joeys.

TDO.

Hello TDO.

The 3rd XV game is at Riverview. Not sure what field the game will be played on, though I did notice the posts have been erected on No 1 and No 4 fields.

INP