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Waratahs 2015

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kiap

Steve Williams (59)
2015 would seem the ideal time for people like John Eales as a board member of the ARU to offer his assistance. Surely he can provide some valuable advice to our locks on scrummaging (and Hooper and others on captaincy).

Credit for the sarcasm on this coaching advice suggestion. Well played. You've summed up the situation well and proposed a better alternative. And on that basis, I agree. ;)

Why would John Eales be parachuted in for scrummaging advice? He must have been showing his hand at coaching techniques in locking out the scrum that warrants a tap on the shoulder . . . is that right?

It's a good point you make. The current bloke being paid to do the job is not up to it, so we should get a board member to dip his oar in because he's already on the payroll.

His old winning record should just rub off to fix the wobbly scrum via the second row.

Is Tim Horan a good television commentator? Does Mark Ella write good columns? - They give it a good go!

To be fair, I'm sure Eales would put his shoulder to the wheel where needed and if asked, particularly on captaincy advice where he'd have plenty to offer. I doubt that he adds to the answer for the scrum. Too many cooks, and all that. It needs a specialist technical coach.
 

Braveheart81

Will Genia (78)
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Credit for the sarcasm on this coaching advice suggestion. Well played. You've summed up the situation well and proposed a better alternative. And on that basis, I agree. ;)

Why would John Eales be parachuted in for scrummaging advice? He must have been showing his hand at coaching techniques in locking out the scrum that warrants a tap on the shoulder . . . is that right?

It's a good point you make. The current bloke being paid to do the job is not up to it, so we should get a board member to dip his oar in because he's already on the payroll.

His old winning record should just rub off to fix the wobbly scrum via the second row.

Is Tim Horan a good television commentator? Does Mark Ella write good columns? - They give it a good go!

To be fair, I'm sure Eales would put his shoulder to the wheel where needed and if asked, particularly on captaincy advice where he'd have plenty to offer. I doubt that he adds to the answer for the scrum. Too many cooks, and all that. It needs a specialist technical coach.

I actually wasn't being sarcastic.

It was a suggestion based on the fact that we've got limited time to fix things and potentially no one available to do the jobs required.

As a legendary Wallaby lock already involved with the ARU, Eales seemed like a good option.

I realise Eales has never been a coach but surely he can aid our locks in their core skills.

We have a specialist forwards coach in Blades but the argument being made is he's either not up to it or has shortfalls.

I absolutely agree with the too many cooks premise but maybe this year is the exception. We've got a lot to do and little time to do it.
 
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I don't think Eales is the solution to the scrummaging woes nor do I think it's a position he would take up. Wallabies need someone who has coaching experience and someone who has been involved In coaching or playing the game in the last 10 years.

Might be time to look further abroad and accept that the expertise might not be available from within Australia.
 

kiap

Steve Williams (59)
Sarcasm was my method for that post, I'll admit.

Eales has been volunteered by posters on here as the Mister Fixit in various roles from tour manager to water boy. Let him do his job as a board member.

If we're going to have someone do a half-arsed, part-time job then at least add a specialist with some technical coaching experience.

And how long does Blades need? Did he join with Robbie Deans after 2011? Not saying he is a bad coach but it seems he has a way to go in being able to get the scrum working as a complete unit.
 

Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
Eales has been volunteered by posters on here as the Mister Fixit in various roles from tour manager to water boy. Let him do his job as a board member.

The way the board is going, I wouldn't be recommending any of them for anything.
 

kiap

Steve Williams (59)
The way the board is going, I wouldn't be recommending any of them for anything.
Why is that?

Most of the board are a bit over a year in. They'll be gone before long as well and there should be an independent board soon enough.

The ARU's problems are long standing.
 

barbarian

Phil Kearns (64)
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In terms of scrum coaching roles, I'm not sure anyone on here really knows who is appropriate. In fact that goes for any coaching role.

I'm not badmouthing the Eales suggestion, or the Rodriguez one either. I think coaching is obviously a really nuanced art, hence the success of Mike Cron where other (more on-field qualified) coaches have failed. It is very hard to predict who will succeed and who will fail.
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kiap

Steve Williams (59)
In terms of scrum coaching roles, I'm not sure anyone on here really knows who is appropriate. In fact that goes for any coaching role.
C'mon, mate. That's nonsense.

You've just thrown your hands in the air without a clue so that rules you out straight away. Which makes it two crossed out because I know I couldn't do the job. :)

I'm not badmouthing the Eales suggestion, or the Rodriguez one either. I think coaching is obviously a really nuanced art, hence the success of Mike Cron where other (more on-field qualified) coaches have failed. It is very hard to predict who will succeed and who will fail.
Mike Cron, after playing at a decent level, was coaching for well over 20 years before he joined the All Blacks group. That included 15 years with Canterbury in the NPC, as well as years with the Canadian national program. He didn't gain his scrum guru status overnight out of nowhere.

Rodriguez has had at least ten seasons as a coach or as a scrum consultant for rep teams, club teams and at the World Cup. He's also written a book on the subject, so he has runs on the board.

By comparison, Eales is a Nobody.

He hasn't put his hand up as a scrum consultant.

I'm calling it now: We won't be seeing Eales hired to work under Cheika trying to fix the scrum. He is a smart bloke.
 

Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
Why is that?

Most of the board are a bit over a year in. They'll be gone before long as well and there should be an independent board soon enough.

The ARU's problems are long standing.

Because you get recommended for something else when you have achieved something in your current role. I've seen no spectacular accomplishments in any particular part of the enterprise.

But I think we've all strayed off Waratahs 2105.
 

Quick Hands

David Wilson (68)
Anyone got anything to add to the Waratah 2015 thread, that's about the Waratahs in 2015?

I'd like to see a top flight scrum coach appointed, but I may be dreaming there.

I understand that the extended squad have been training really well and according to today's Manly Daily, Nathan Grey got straight off the plane and went to the SFS and spent the day training with the boys. That's the sort of dedication which breeds a winning culture. He was apparently very impressed by how the boys trained as well, so they've obviously been putting in the hard yards while Cheika and Grey have been in Europe. All sounds very promising to me.
 

Pfitzy

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Anyone got anything to add to the Waratah 2015 thread, that's about the Waratahs in 2015?


No. We have sarcasm, speculation, and attempts at wit.

Which means rugby season is clearly over and people need to get the fuck off the forum for a few weeks.
 

oztimmay

Tony Shaw (54)
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What are you going to do now?


Beer...

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