2016 Schools rowing

[Johnny come lately]

Pulling something, thats for sure.

 

[behindtheshed]

"Scots and Newington would be the biggest threats this season"

Ah......New! a threat! biggest laugh - literally out loud - I've had in a good while.


"My prediction is Shore will dominate"

Yeah. Well, this forum is the ideal place for that kind of wildcard, left-field savant-like soothsaying. I mean, pass me the crystal ball. My prediction is that the regatta will be at SIRC. Call me crazy, know I'm going out on a limb here, but I've got a gut feeling that Penrith is where it's happening.

 

[LBA]

Just checked to see if the draw was up for the Jnr HOTR Parra and it is not. However on closer inspection you really would not need one. What a shame so few schools entered crews. There will still be volunteers that give up there time to run it. Hope the boys who do race have some fun. Wonder how the AAGPS rowing super powers interpret the lack of entries ?

 

[oarsome]

Just checked to see if the draw was up for the Jnr HOTR Parra and it is not. However on closer inspection you really would not need one. What a shame so few schools entered crews. There will still be volunteers that give up there time to run it. Hope the boys who do race have some fun. Wonder how the AAGPS rowing super powers interpret the lack of entries ?View attachment 7233

Agreed that its a shame. I find this racing format one of the more enjoyable to compete it - they're definitely missing out.

 

[rowerforlife]

Yes. It is a shame that junior rowers are missing out. If there are only six entries, I would imagine that would be a school's 6 Yr 9 quads. Racing experience is everything when it comes to the juniors, so they are missing out on a lot.

 

[LBA]

Draw is up !

Ladies and Gentleman not long now until you start your engines to make the pilgrimage to SIRC. I am disappointed that I will not be able to attend.

Wishing all the young men water like glass - I hope the jail wardens are in good spirits - that is if they turn up - not many have day release.

I hope the coaches are happy and settled with the preparation they have done. As I have said before it might be the crew that makes the least amount of mistakes that win.

Having watched great racing on the weekend (take a look at some of the margins listed on the results example: Sunday Races 2, 19 and 20) it is just validates that I will pray to the God of Rowing until I die.

I must say a number of rescues - Saturday a quad ! Yes a quad - the girls were applauded for their efforts whilst returning to the pontoon by the surf lifesavers. Lovely sportsman ship was on display - lots of hair styled and matching ribbons. In case you are ask - yes I pack hair spray and sunscreen in my boat bag. I hope that the friendly atmosphere is the same at all the AAGPS Regatta's. The excitement continued all the way to McDonalds after the Regatta where we all stopped for a sugar hit.

To those of you who have to dance until 11am the night before - know that the girls or at least one of them is hitching a lift to show support on Saturday.

Legs. body and then arms away - use the big powerful thigh muscles young men - your oars are merely extensions of your arms. You are all winners and are to be continually applauded for all the blood sweat and tears and you have put into training. Regardless of winning or loosing or anything else in between you can only do your very best - that is all anybody can ask for you.

 

[ColonelM]

Looks like we'll see each race twice this weekend with a heat and final for every GPS event. It seems every school has come out to play.

St Josephs, Shore, Scots and St Ignatius all have good depth to their squads, with more than enough cattle to fill out all their races. It's a different story for Sydney Grammar and SBHS however.

There is a regatta in the next few weeks for GPS selection in the single sculls. Does anyone know how that will work?

-M

 

[LBA]

ColonelM - The GPS sculling comp falls into the category secret AAGPS business I asked questions about this "special" event last year and did not straight get an answer a lot of froth and bubbles but no clear description and or answer. I also asked questions about the Honorary AAGPS VIII that is selected as well.

To the best of my knowledge the AAGPS sculling super secret sculling trials are to be held at SIRC this Friday. But I could be wrong I just overheard some girls chatting - they were actually asking "why do the boys even bother doing it?" I would have to say good question why bother at all?

The exclusive winners never actually race at any Regatta nor does the Honorary VIII compete at Nationals.

The girls regatta's have single scull races but with AAGPS they don't so this boy is crowned the AAGPS sculler for what ?? The AAGPS does not have any information about either events. I came to this website to learn about AAGPS rowing - I have asked a lot of questions ? But the more I think about it I have not got any real answer.

I think I have just had another morning rant - sorry ColonelM but to be blunt you will never get a real answer to any of your questions lots of opinions but no real truth.

The draw for Saturday is the same as always - there are heats the older boys have always raced twice.

 

[Will Sheller]

What are your predictions for this weekend at Sydney Grammar Regatta. Mainly the SB1 4+ and SB1 8+.

 

[SBrow]

The draw for Saturday is the same as always - there are heats the older boys have always raced twice.

Junior eights are racing a heat and a final as well - interesting change, wonder if this will become standard for hen and chicken regattas??

GPS 1900m time trial this Friday (rolling staggered start) - 16 boys make it through to two 8 man races next friday, top 4 in the 'A' heat make it through, bottom four of the A heat and top four of the B heat go to seat racing.

The point is not to race the honorary eight, but a recognition of the very best - If you question the importance of this, then you might as well question the importance of holding up a glass box on March 12th.

My tip - Shore, possibly Riverview, and King's to be in contention for both eights.

 

[LBA]

Recognition within the AAGPS rowing community. It would depend on the time to see if it the sculler would be competitive in a bigger rowing pond. But the times are never posted on the AAGPS website. So you could be the top sculler but the time could be poor.

Again unless you have studied the results on the Rowing NSW website and actually know who not only rows for a GPS school but a club as well - how much sculling they have actually done I think it would be foolish to rule out any young rower.

It is just me or didn't St Joseph's College do every well at the AAGPS HOR - did all these boys just suddenly stop rowing? Nobody seems to support them on this forum - like last year. Shore has a huge following - we have Nut boy who seems to support Newington.

My tip - wait until the results are in - but oooppssss we will never get to see the results - we will just wait for ages until the final Honorary VIII list is on the website. No single sculler is listed.

So again I ask why ???

I am not having a go SBrow I would just like to understand it all. There is no crowd at SIRC for this sculling comp - what real recognition is there. I can say I am queen of the boat bags - I pack water, sunscreen, low Gi snacks, hair spay, ribbons etc... but what does it actually mean?

Can you put it down on your rowing resume to help you gain access to the AIS or the Australian Rowing Squad? It would all depend on the times. Would a varsity Uni get excited if you told them you were the top sculler of the NSW AAGPS?

 

[oarsome]

Had a look at which boat/seat the strokes of each SB8+ 1 were in last year:

St. Josephs - Jack O'Brien - 4 seat of winning 1st 8 at HOTR
Scots - Joe Skuse - Stroke of winning 2nd 8 at HOTR
Kings - Jack Mackenzie-Wood - Bow seat of 7th placed 1st 8 at HOTR.
Grammar - Max Glanville - 2 seat of 6th placed 1st 8 at HOTR
Shore - Pasha Bevan - Stroke of winning 1st junior 8 at HOTR
St. Ignatius - Jack Carlson - Stroke of 3rd placed 2nd 8 at HOTR
Newington - Sam Gilfedder - 4 seat of 5th placed 1st 8 at HOTR.
Sydney Boys High - Wesley Zhang - 3 seat of 8th placed 1st 8 at HOTR.
St. Augustines - Daniel Samus - 6 seat of 2nd placed under17 8+ at NSW Rowing Championships

 

[LBA]

Colour co-ordinated to the GPS school's colour - oarsome oarsome !

Lovely photo of the SIRC bridge - taken from the rocks or from the relocated on / off water pontoons?

 

[oarsome]

Colour co-ordinated to the GPS school's colour - oarsome !

Lovely photo of the SIRC bridge - taken from the rocks on from the relocated on / off water pontoons?

After going to the initial effort, the colour co-ordination was just a sugar coating! Photo taken in that exact spot, last summer.

 

[SBrow]

Recognition within the AAGPS rowing community. It would depend on the time to see if it the sculler would be competitive in a bigger rowing pond. But the times are never posted on the AAGPS website. So you could be the top sculler but the time could be poor.

Again unless you have studied the results on the Rowing NSW website and actually know who not only rows for a GPS school but a club as well - how much sculling they have actually done I think it would be foolish to rule out any young rower.

It is just me or didn't St Joseph's College do every well at the AAGPS HOR - did all these boys just suddenly stop rowing? Nobody seems to support them on this forum - like last year. Shore has a huge following - we have Nut boy who seems to support Newington.

My tip - wait until the results are in - but oooppssss we will never get to see the results - we will just wait for ages until the final Honorary VIII list is on the website. No single sculler is listed.

So again I ask why ???

I am not having a go SBrow I would just like to understand it all. There is no crowd at SIRC for this sculling comp - what real recognition is there. I can say I am queen of the boat bags - I pack water, sunscreen, low Gi snacks, hair spay, ribbons etc. but what does it actually mean?

Can you put it down on your rowing resume to help you gain access to the AIS or the Australian Rowing Squad? It would all depend on the times. Would a varsity Uni get excited if you told them you were the top sculler of the NSW AAGPS?

GPS eight members receive a GPS patch for their blazer, as well as the highest level of their schools colour system - which is usually denoted by a different blazer, different trim on the blazer, or just another line on their pocket. They are recognised by their peers - just because the bored parents/coaches/old boys community of G&G isn't notified, does not mean there is no glory in the acheivement

In saying this, successful athletes look at sport not as a way for recognition - particularly in the relatively obscure sport of rowing - but as a challenge, to better themselves, to be the best.

As a side note - times are taken and the respective schools have access to these times, so if the boys do wish to use them as a form of selection or on their resume, they may. However most boys who would pursue rowing after school would most likely do a 2k single scull at some other point

 

[oarsome]

On the subject of the GPS sculling event - here is the link that posted on the 2015 forum that has the times of the time trial from way back in 2009. http://portals.studentnet.edu.au/sports/uploads/DocArchive/DOCARC0002803.pdf

I noticed in the times that Scots were a no-show, and Shore have not turned up to the regatta since 2013 also. Whilst this is only one school failing to show, I do feel as though it leaves a void in the challenge, as mentioned by SBrow - as I believe that Scots and Shore would definitely boast some talented scullers.

 

[SBrow]

Do all GPS school's have colour systems? Or is it only Newington? SBrow obviously a Newington supporter.

There has been previous discussions about the patches that go on blazer - last year's rowing forum. But never a colour system.

What is sad is that very few boys continue to row after they leave the GPS schools. It would be great if they all joined a club and kept rowing. A lot of young men don't pick up another oar until many years have past and they sign up for Corporate rowing.

Bored parents - lovely !! I am sure all the parents myself included who sacrifice so much to be able to provide a solid education for their children will love to read that. I am sure all volunteers who are past parents who contribute to the GPS rowing sheds in many and various ways will also feel inspired to keep giving up their time after being called "bored". The old boys community still have cheque books SBrow and I am sure being called "bored" will again prompt them to cut a cheque.

I might have barnacles but I would never bite the hand that feeds me. Nor would I be ungrateful to those who work hard to ensure the boats keep floating.

Back to my boring life.

I think you'll find most private schools worldwide have some form of colours system, whereby colours are awarded for achievements in sport, music, academics etc.
If you see a GPS boy with writing on his pocket of his blazer, thats what you're looking at.

Once again LBA you have not failed in picking apart the most insignificant parts of a post in an attempt to create drama on this forum, rather than discuss rowing. Especially so since your whole post is based off your assumption I am a student, and that I go to Newington - Neither are correct.

 

[Spieber]

Oarsome - another bored parent, coach or old boy.

He was referring to those on this forum, not generally - and it was meant tongue in cheek. Take it as such and stop searching for offense where none is intended.

The Honorary VIII is based on the sculling event. Shore choose to not participate, which is a shame. The AAGPS pocket certainly looked good on my son's blazer and he was very proud of it.

Anyway, back to 15/16 season. I see Shore has a 3rd VIII, which always augurs well for a strong senior shed. Will be interested to see results from the Grammar regatta.

 

[SBrow]

He was referring to those on this forum, not generally - and it was meant tongue in cheek. Take it as such and stop searching for offense where none is intended.

The Honorary VIII is based on the sculling event. Shore choose to not participate, which is a shame. The AAGPS pocket certainly looked good on my son's blazer and he was very proud of it.

Anyway, back to 15/16 season. I see Shore has a 3rd VIII, which always augurs well for a strong senior shed. Will be interested to see results from the Grammar regatta.

A strong coach of that 3rd VIII too, won a junior eight HOTR over at Kings last year, obviously good with the lower end crews

 

[LBA]

Shore has had 3rd VIII's since 2001. So have other GPS schools. They seemed to have missed the following seasons 2012-2013 / 2005- 2006 seasons. My source Rowing NSW website.

FYI - I typed Newington Supporter.

Asking questions I don't think is creating drama. I have only ever heard my Newington associates refer to "getting colours".