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2012 IRB Junior World Championship

Discussion in 'Rugby Discussion' started by PaarlBok, Feb 29, 2012.

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  1. Bowside Peter Fenwicke (45)

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    Good to see some blokes from WA, ACT and VIC in the squad. I dont know how crook is considered a NSW product, but it must be due to him being in the NSW academy or something.

    I think it's a pretty strong side and they will put up a good fight, should make it to the semis.
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  2. Braveheart81 Mark Ella (57)

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    It's hard to see Johan Goosen not being an absolutely dominant player at the tournament.
    Braveheart81, May 2, 2012
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  3. barbarian Paul McLean (56)

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    Well since he has just had shoulder surgery will Goosen be fit in time?
    barbarian, May 2, 2012
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  4. Braveheart81 Mark Ella (57)

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    He needed surgery after that injury against the Clan? That's a shame.

    If he hadn't gone off injured I'm sure they would have won that game comfortably. Such a class player.

    You'd assume he won't be right then.
    Braveheart81, May 2, 2012
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  5. tranquility Chilla Wilson (44)

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    Who are those unlucky blokes?

    Squad looks good to me, but I say that every year. Cusack, Roach, Browning, Ngauamo, Cummins, McMahon should all be good Super Rugby players in the forwards in the future. The backs will be as always as good as any other side.

    Paraka is starting at Prop for Easties already so he must be a talent. The ARU were pushing for the Rebels to pick up Hoskins, so he obviously has big wraps on him as well.

    Always pretty enjoyable tournament as a spectator.
    tranquility, May 2, 2012
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  6. twenty seven Ted Thorn (20)

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    On the IRB site it has 4 lads named and then unknown listed in the positions column next to names. Makes you wonder what the hell is going on.
    Not a big side compared to the NZ and SA sides.
    Looks like they are going to try and run around them.
    Lot of young lads in that squad that, no matter what, have not had the time to develop experience, especially against (again) NZ and SA.
    twenty seven, May 2, 2012
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  7. SuperGrover Alfred Walker (16)

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    Even if Goosen is available, there is every chance he may be involved in the series against the poms instead of playing for the baby boks.
    SuperGrover, May 2, 2012
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  8. rugbyfan Sydney Middleton (9)

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    May be reserves?
    rugbyfan, May 2, 2012
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  9. twenty seven Ted Thorn (20)

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    Wouldn't you pick reserves with experience!
    twenty seven, May 2, 2012
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  10. DownsSupporter Frank Nicholson (4)

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  11. PaarlBok David Codey (61)

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    He is out for 4 months at least.
    PaarlBok, May 2, 2012
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  12. Swarley Syd Malcolm (24)

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    I think Boyd Killingworth, Mitch Carpenter and Michael Bermingham were very unlucky to miss out. Other than that looks to be a decent squad.

    Possible XV

    1. Allan Alaalatoa
    2. Hugh Roach
    3. Oliver Hoskins
    4. Steven Cummins
    5. Jed Holloway
    6. Tom Cusack
    7. Liam Gill (c)
    8. Sean McMahon
    9. Nick Frisby
    10. Ulupano Seuteni
    11. Lindsay Crook
    12. Apolosi Latunipulu
    13. Allan Faalavaau
    14. Chris Sautia
    15. Lewis Holland

    16. Maile Ngauamo
    17. Pettowa Paraka
    18. Silatolu Latu
    19. Sam Reiser
    20. Ben Melrose
    21. Matt Lucas
    22. Con Foley
    23. Malietoa Hingano

    Maybe Kyle Godwin to Fly-half, UJ Seuteni to Fullback and Holland to the bench? Also unsure if Curtis Browning (QLD) is playing loosehead, backrow or lock.
    Swarley, May 2, 2012
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  13. twenty seven Ted Thorn (20)

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    Mitch Carpenter didn't go to the second camp.
    Sean Cox and Michael Stolberg also missed out.
    Curtis Browning is backrow
    twenty seven, May 2, 2012
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  14. qwerty51 Steve Williams (59)

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    A few names from the Brisbane academy should've been there since they did well in the academy game down in Sydney against some of the Sydney side names.

    Yep hard to believe Killingworth didn't make it
    qwerty51, May 2, 2012
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  15. Cave Dweller Syd Malcolm (24)

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    Los Pumitas

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    The selected Under 20 is currently using the nickname Los Pumitas. In previous years Los Pumitas were composed of under 19 years players
    Los Pumitas finished in ninth place in the World category held in Italy last year.
    Roster of Players

    Forwards

    [IMG]Federico Aguiar [IMG] Tomas Bruno


    [IMG] Matthias Sambrán [IMG] Mariano Sanchez



    [IMG] Rodrigo Heit Stop [IMG] Gaspar Oberti
    [IMG] Married Lautaro [IMG] Ladislao Uriburu

    [IMG] Matias Diaz [IMG] Leandro Ramela



    [IMG] Botta Santiago Garcia [IMG] Ramon Guillermo Gonzalez


    [IMG] Guillemain Juan Cruz [IMG] Santiago Iglesias



    [IMG] Facundo Isa [IMG] Germain Lefort




    Cave Dweller, May 2, 2012
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  16. Cave Dweller Syd Malcolm (24)

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    Backs

    [IMG] Philip Ezcurra [IMG] Matias Silva Frías

    [IMG] Brex Juan Ignacio [IMG] Germain Klubus
    [IMG] Paul Matera [IMG] Franco Cuaranta

    [IMG] Philip Nogués [IMG] Joaquin Peace
    [IMG] Poet Sebastian [IMG] Gonzalo Ruiz






    [IMG] Rodolfo Ambrose [IMG] John Cappiello

    [IMG] Cordero Santiago
    That is the main squad basically that will compete in most of the games.
    Cave Dweller, May 2, 2012
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  17. Caputo Sydney Middleton (9)

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    Another surprising ommission for me was Isaiah Mosese from Rebels EPS and current first grade at Northern Suburbs
    Caputo, May 2, 2012
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  18. Lee Grant Simon Poidevin (60)

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    Swarley

    That was a good team you picked in your last post from the players available, but it underlines some of the problems the Oz team may encounter.


    There are 7 Oz Schools players from last year by my rough count if you include some that were injured and couldn't play - and I've probably forgotten one or two. That's a bit too many IMO.


    I thought that the Oz U/19 team from last year that was bullied by the England U/18s, so well conditioned were they, though a year younger, would form the bulk of the 2012 Oz U/20 squad, but only 10 of that 23 man squad in 2011 made the 2012 squad of 28. I could have missed a name or two but regardless, roughly half of them were overlooked.


    Props Allan A and Paraka were still at school last year but at least they are big enough - but another school leaver, Sean McMahon is only 17 years old and 90kgs, which is OK for Sevens, but is light to play no.8 in the IRB U/20s. Someone said that Browning is being considered as a backrower so he could start at 8 because he must be 110kgs now; but he's another who was at school in 2011 and is not seasoned. Besides, he did not give a good account of himself in the Academy game in Sydney a few months ago.


    Too many young players and a small backrow are two problems; another is the 2nd row, which will lack physicality. I have a high regard for Steve Cummins but he compared poorly to the Qld Academy lads, albeit a year or two older, in the game I mentioned earlier. Holloway may be playing in 1st Grade but he didn't play the house down in a game I saw. If Reiser gets picked in the main team he is not exactly a powerhouse either


    Gill will make a difference to the team but I will only believe he will play when I see him run onto the park. The mobility of the backrow will make up some for their lack of size (and I suspect aggression also) but not enough.


    I fear for this team in the physical contests against the likes of South Africa, England and NZ.


    The backs are another matter. Frisby is a first class player and though Lucas played poorly in that U/19 match last year, it was, no doubt, a one off. His 7s form is top class. I thought Donlan would miss out because of the names of the others, but if a team unit is measured by who is omitted, the scrummies will do well. Donlan is playing the house down in Sydney 1st Grade.


    I think you could be right about the older Godwin playing flyhalf instead of UJ - but who has seen either play a full game of rugby this year? Not me. Reports please.


    Your back three should do well but the midfield is a concern. 12. Apo has not shown the form for his school in rep teams, or senior teams he has played in, and this is his 2nd year out of school already. 13 Allan F from Victoria is going to be a Super player one day and looks good in the Oz 7s team, but he is another who left school last year. Maybe he will do better playing next to Apo than Hingano ever did. Those two never played well together as they were too much the same.


    I hope that these lads have a warm up game or two. The 6N countries have already had a tournament amongst themselves. Maybe one year the 3N or 4N teams will have an early comp for the purposes of selecting their IRB U/20 team.


    To start with, a couple of games. home and away, with NZ, could be a curtain raiser for a Super Rugby game in each country. This should be held before the final selections are made. Needed Super Rugby players don't have to play: they would be shoo-ins anyway.

    Let's put that on the agenda for 2013.
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    Lee Grant, May 3, 2012
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  19. tigerland12 Ken Catchpole (46)

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    Godwin should start ahead of UJ at this stage. UJ has played about a half of footy this season, and looked really rusty in it. But some game time might change that.
    tigerland12, May 3, 2012
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  20. twenty seven Ted Thorn (20)

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    Lee I agree wholeheartdly with your post.

    "I fear for this team in the physical contests against the likes of South Africa, England and NZ." My sentiments exactly. I fear for these boys too.

    They have selected players who do not have the size, weight, conditioning and game time. It's ok to run around the bigger fellows, unitl they catch you.
    twenty seven, May 3, 2012
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