The torpedo
Peter Fenwicke (45)
Agreed Dan54 but as an aside Messam needs to HTFU and not start fights because some young bloke Tongan sidestepped him
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Agreed Dan54 but as an aside Messam needs to HTFU and not start fights because some young bloke Tongan sidestepped him
A bunch of players came together and grabbed each others jumpers.
It was hardly starting a fight. It's also unbelievably common.
Given the fact that Tupou lost the plot and got himself suspended for two weeks you can guarantee someone will bait him again.
It's a classic case of an old stager recognising that the young guy was fired up and likely to do something stupid if provoked.
Pure gamesmanship from Messam.
Pure gamesmanship from Messam.
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Tim Horan (67)
He sure to get that an awful lot, I have seen it in everything from club rugby to test match, it part of the growing up for any young rugby player.
dru
Tim Horan (67)
I see the "likes" to this post and yes Toupo needs to sort it out. But it was a fun comp in the tens. BH, if you're right, then Messam is a dead set donkey. Completely smears his so-called rep.
Toupo so far for me, has a rep that remains intact.
How does it smear anyone's reputation? Messam goaded a young player into doing something he shouldn't have and Tupou has copped a two game suspension.
Messam didn't do anything dirty to provoke the retaliation. Tupou won the physical contact and then did something dumb.
Tupou should have just laughed at him and called him an old man.
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Mark Ella (57)
Just a young bull learning how to play with the big boys - lucky only 2 weeks.
He'll learn from that (he'd better)
He'll learn from that (he'd better)
dru
Tim Horan (67)
"Reprehensible" : blameworthy, censurable, guilty.
A joke? No, I don't think so.
Messam goes in with a shoulder charge and bounces off. Its not "old dog v young dog", if what is being portrayed is right, it's an ego that cant handle being bettered, so he goes outside of actual rugby to push his weight alternatively. Intentionally. In rugby of little consequence. No doubt though, his ego is better for it.
It's hardly the biggest issue on the table, but the bloke is a donkey. On this occassion anyway.
The torpedo
Peter Fenwicke (45)
He will mature IMO. He is only 20 and he will learn from it
That response is really common though. Players regularly grab hold of each other, particularly after they have had a bit of contact. Players don't often skulk off after being bested in contact.
I don't really care what Messam did. I don't really look at it positively or negatively. If you took much out of it you'd lose the plot with the game because it happens multiple times in most matches. Half the time the ball isn't given back for the lineout throw after someone has been tackled out of play they end up grabbing each others jerseys and getting in each other's face.
The response from Tupou says to me that the next guy is going to come along and do exactly the same thing to try and rile him up because it got a response last time.
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Vay Wilson (31)
Nah he did do something wrong that's the point. He didn't use his arms in a tackle. Dumb for Thor to retaliate but Messan also deserved to be punish => brain fart referee or judiciary or whoever made the decision. All Black, Blackall, young bull old bull, cowboy doesn't matter; rules need to be applied uniformly and consistently
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Having "major" sporting events on consecutive weekends in Brisbane's going to stretch fans' patience, and wallets, possibly a bit too far. What the Rugby 10s has in its favour is its international flavour, something league can't match. For 2018 it'd be nice to see two more teams from elsewhere, possibly an Asian side, Fiji instead of Samoa and a rotating Saffer team. I'd wager this year's appearance by Toulon'll be the last time we see a European entry in the Brisbane 10s.
Some work to do for the promoters: 5 Oz+5 NZ+6 others. What about an Argie team, a Saffer side (not the Bulls), a Japanese team (not the Wild Knights), Fiji, an Asian XV (Hong Kong+Singapore perhaps) and one of Canada or America. Maybe even give Uruguay some encouragement. Or possibly get Kenya to have a crack at 10s.
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David Codey (61)
For next year I'd go the 5 Aus and NZ franchises, the Sunwolves , the Jaguares, the Lions, Kenya, Fiji and probably the USA.
Strewthcobber
Mark Ella (57)
There's got to be a fair chance that Duco do a swap, 9s to Brisbane, 10s to Auckland.
Did the Qld gov kick in any funding? Might help to keep it at Suncorp.
Did the Qld gov kick in any funding? Might help to keep it at Suncorp.
yes, plenty. On a 4 year deal.
the question is, will they chip in more for the 9s?
Sydney won't you wouldn't imagine as they have the 7s which is working for them.
I can't imagine the organisers wanting to risk it in Melbourne.
Leaves them in a tough position.
the question is, will they chip in more for the 9s?
Sydney won't you wouldn't imagine as they have the 7s which is working for them.
I can't imagine the organisers wanting to risk it in Melbourne.
Leaves them in a tough position.
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