COVID-19 Stuff Here

[Pfitzy]

Disturbing graph in The Guardian of the increase in infections in Oz. Read here: https://www.theguardian.com/news/da...avirus-are-there-in-australia-live-statistics

Can someone with more technical skills than me put that graph up here on this thread.

Here's a screenshot?

 

[Up the Guts]

Do recoveries get dropped from cumulative?

 

[swingpass]

and to further emphasise why we must observe the distancing measures

 

[Slim 293]

Ah, the old 'everyone who disagrees with me is Alan Jones.'

Unlike Alan, everything that I have said in that post is peer-reviewed.

Nah, it’s just the “cure is worse than the disease” argument that he spouts, which is just bollocks.

 

[kiap]

Guv'mint is not listening to their expert advisors.

Needs to happen NOW.

Coronavirus expert advisory panel member calls on Federal Government lock Australia down​

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By medical reporter Sophie Scott and Specialist Reporting Team's Brooke Wylie and Lucy Kent​

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Updated 52 minutes ago​

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A key member of an expert panel advising the Government's response to COVID-19 has voiced her frustrations at Australia's staged shutdown approach, warning the death toll could potentially rise if the Government did not take a "go hard, go now approach".​

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Raina MacIntyre from the UNSW's Biosecurity Program is part of an expert panel from Australia's leading universities, which recommended an immediate but short lockdown to curb cases, an approach the Government did not take.​

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"I was hoping we'd see a more comprehensive lockdown for a short period of time, but that is not the approach we're taking," Professor MacIntyre said.​

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"It's more a trickle sort of approach, a little bit by bit, which won't be as effective at stopping the transmission in the community."​

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Professor MacIntyre said the majority of panellists — including specialists from the fields of epidemiology, bio-ethics and medicine — urged the Government to act within a short and vital window.​

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"The majority of people on the panel did agree with this go hard, go now approach," she said.​

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Read more: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03-25/australia-needs-coronavirus-lockdown-now-expert-says/12088348​

 

[Up the Guts]

Nah, it’s just the “cure is worse than the disease” argument that he spouts, which is just bollocks.

Can only judge that retrospectively

 

[Lindommer]

Trump's fuckwit friends from Fox have come up with this "the cure's worse than the problem", and he's swallowed it, HOOK, LINE AND SINKER! Whatever happens to our American friends in the next few months could be both very tragic, and quite avoidable if sensible policies had've been adopted. About now.

Let's hope our lot aren't so retrospectively wise. In hindsight. Looking backwards. Afterwards. Then.

 

[Up the Guts]

Trump's fuckwit friends from Fox have come up with this "the cure's worse than the problem", and he's swallowed it, HOOK, LINE AND SINKER! Whatever happens to our American friends in the next few months could be both very tragic, and quite avoidable if sensible policies had've been adopted. About now.

lol, do you actually think Trump is going to jeopardise his re-election chances by gambling with the lives of his voter base? He's spent the last 4 years manipulating the stock markets with his tariff talk, now he's doing the same with the 'open for business' talk. Give it 3 months and the US will still be in some sort of lockdown and Trump will be talking about being open for business next month. Saying outlandish shit, getting coverage for it, and then not acting on it is his MO.

 

[cyclopath]

lol, do you actually think Trump is going to jeopardise his re-election chances by gambling with the lives of his voter base? He's spent the last 4 years manipulating the stock markets with his tariff talk, now he's doing the same with the 'open for business' talk. Give it 3 months and the US will still be in some sort of lockdown and Trump will be talking about being open for business next month. Saying outlandish shit, getting coverage for it, and then not acting on it is his MO.

If they aint in lockdown in 3 days, they're fucked. Actually, less than 3.

 

[Up the Guts]

If they aint in lockdown in 3 days, they're fucked. Actually, less than 3.

Well, there you have it.

The states and cities are the ones controlling the lockdowns primarily. Trump is distancing himself so he can blame them for the economic fallout.

 

[Slim 293]

Morrison now lifting the restrictions on hairdressers.........

Madness.

 

[Slim 293]

Victoria notched up its first deaths last night.........

Two Victorians have died from coronavirus. The Victorians - both men - were aged in their 70s.

Two other Victorians - one aged in their 30s and the other in their 60s - are fighting for their lives in intensive care.

https://www.theage.com.au/national/...h-toll-overtakes-china-s-20200326-p54dze.html

 

[fatprop]

Morrison now lifting the restrictions on hairdressers...

Madness.

Really? The difference between 29 minutes and 43 minutes was going to make a difference?

 

[Up the Guts]

Really? The difference between 29 minutes and 43 minutes was going to make a difference?

Hey, stick to the playbook.

Government responds to changing circumstances = mixed messaging

Government doesn’t immediately implement harshest measures possible = culpable homicide

 

[Braveheart81]

Really? The difference between 29 minutes and 43 minutes was going to make a difference?

Realistically if the hairdresser or the client has COVID19 they're going to infect each other regardless of the length of time the haircut takes. So if you're happy with that then you may as well remove the restriction.

The changing circumstances here seems to be that Peta Credlin interviewed a hairdresser on Sky News last night complaining about the 30 minute restriction.

 

[fatprop]

Hey, stick to the playbook.

Government responds to changing circumstances = mixed messaging

Government doesn’t immediately implement harshest measures possible = culpable homicide

Yeah the "mixed messaging" line is just crap.

They have no idea what is the "right approach" or even what the is the "best approach" (no one does) so they are going to have to continually change shit as new info is provided

 

[fatprop]

Realistically if the hairdresser or the client has COVID19 they're going to infect each other regardless of the length of time the haircut takes. So if you're happy with that then you may as well remove the restriction.

The changing circumstances here seems to be that Peta Credlin interviewed a hairdresser on Sky News last night complaining about the 30 minute restriction.

Do you really think that Sky News and specifically Peta Credlin is driving the government's agendas at the moment?

 

[Braveheart81]

Do you really think that Sky News and specifically Peta Credlin is driving the government's agendas at the moment?

Any other reason you can see why they changed it one day after creating the rule?

 

[fatprop]

Any other reason you can see why they changed it one day after creating the rule?

Because it was wrong? and they are making it up as they go along?

 

[Up the Guts]

Yeah the "mixed messaging" line is just crap.

They have no idea what is the "right approach" or even what the is the "best approach" (no one does) so they are going to have to continually change shit as new info is provided

Exactly right. Oxford has just published a new model indicating 50% of those in Britain may have had the virus:

virus https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/03/oxford-study-coronavirus-may-have-infected-half-of-u-k.html


Meanwhile, over at Stanford, they are also suggesting that death rates are orders of magnitude too high:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/is-the-coronavirus-as-deadly-as-they-say-11585088464

The UK are gearing up to mass distribute antibody tests which will detect whether the virus has been present in your system at all. Only then we will start to get real data on infection/death rates. Until then everyone is completely flying blind.