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Michael Lynagh (62)
Force were scrappy in second half and crusaders were far from on song which made the scoreline even worse.
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Crusaders v Force - 5:35pm AEDT 24th March at AMI Stadium, Christchurch
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waiopehu oldboy
Stirling Mortlock (74)
After a mere 172 attempts......
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Ward Prentice (10)
that may be the worst ref performance I've seen in a while. How many Cru infringements in the red zone with only one card? Here's a screenshot from the penalty the Cru won after their 25th scrum collapse. Crockett, as usual, angles way in, DIRECTLY in front of Hoffman. What a clown - this guy should not be reffing at a Super Rugby level. Not to mention, Ainsely was injured as a result of the same tactic.
As you said, THEN he bins Naisarani for what even Marshall said was a legit steal?
It's tough enough to compete with the Crusaders at home, but when there's reffing like this, it's impossible. He needs to be stood down after that performance. Not up to it.
Nipper
Ward Prentice (10)
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Allen Oxlade (6)
Hoff is waaaay out of his depth in Super Rugby, has been for years, has totally wrecked games for years and needs a good kick up the arse out the door IMHO!
waiopehu oldboy
Stirling Mortlock (74)
Gaffa Chino's match review is up:
http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/?p=105960
Give it a click & tell a friend.
Highlights are up, too, and don't worry, there's not too many scrums
http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/?p=105960
Give it a click & tell a friend.
Highlights are up, too, and don't worry, there's not too many scrums
Dan54
Tim Horan (67)
I actually thought maybe first player had forced it too Southsider, but I wonder if Romano had not forced the ball and Ainsley kicked the ball to touch , would everyone then be squealing if the ref came back for a 5m scrum? I not saying anyone right or wrong, but I wonder how refs ever win these ones.
Brumby Runner
David Wilson (68)
My reply would probably be better on the refereeing decisions thread too WOB, but have you noticed that Aussie refs generally, and Gardner and now the Hoff in particular, are over zealous in their officiating of Aussie teams when they're playing any of the other conference sides? Gardner has been like it for at least a couple of years, and Hoffman was certainly over-zealous against the Force last night. Not that it affected the result, but it's very bloody annoying.
Brumby Runner
David Wilson (68)
Something really does need to be done about Crockett's scrummaging. His idea of scrumming straight is straight towards the right hand touch line. A few scrums last night he was perpendicular to the touch line. Always been the same, sad to say. It is very possible that his illegal tactics contributed directly to Ainslie's injury.
Inside Shoulder
Nathan Sharpe (72)
Hard to fathom how Crockett has not been targeted just as Mahler was in RWC2015: by his opponents and the officials.that may be the worst ref performance I've seen in a while. How many Cru infringements in the red zone with only one card? Here's a screenshot from the penalty the Cru won after their 25th scrum collapse. Crockett, as usual, angles way in, DIRECTLY in front of Hoffman. What a clown - this guy should not be reffing at a Super Rugby level. Not to mention, Ainsely was injured as a result of the same tactic.
As you said, THEN he bins Naisarani for what even Marshall said was a legit steal?
It's tough enough to compete with the Crusaders at home, but when there's reffing like this, it's impossible. He needs to be stood down after that performance. Not up to it.
I think the real, TV Hoff deserves a chance: could not be more consistently wrong.
waiopehu oldboy
Stirling Mortlock (74)
Sumo called it but Marshall & Lose were OK with it, I thought it was 50:50 in that there was contact but I'm not sure Taufua would've stopped the try anyway.
Also for the Romano try Peni's hand appears to be under the ball the whole time he's presenting it for Ainley to pick up, suggesting neither of them could have forced it & Romano essentially stripped the ball to score.
Twoilms
Trevor Allan (34)
Whether or not that was a technically legal try, it was stupid and the kind of dumb shit that only happens in Rugby. Undesirable outcome.
southsider
Arch Winning (36)
Good to see you can find the humour in a potential season ending injury........
southsider
Arch Winning (36)
Like I said, at some point I'm sure Ainsley saw him coming and that hands on the ball to pass became some sort of downward pressure. If the ref had called grounded 5m scrum I very much doubt anyone would've batted much of an eyelid at that decision.
waiopehu oldboy
Stirling Mortlock (74)
More a case of finding the absurdity of blaming one guy for the collapse of a scrum containing 16 guys & resulting injury to one of them.
Brumby Runner
David Wilson (68)
Refs do it every time they penalise a scrum for going down. Regardless, props are meant to scrum straight through the opposite front row. Crockett goes sideways as much as he goes straight and always has. WOB, you are a fair and even handed commentator usually. Surely you can see what he was doing in the scrums in question, including the one where the injury occurred.
waiopehu oldboy
Stirling Mortlock (74)
Crockett does what every other Super Rugby & above loosehead prop does. He's been doing it for long enough to rack up 172 Crusaders & 58 Tests plus 73 for Canterbury & a handful for the "Junior" AB when we had a second XV. In all that time & all those matches I've never heard anyone accuse him of injuring someone either by design or as a result of his scrummaging technique.
I'm pretty sure every prop got pinged st least once last night for various offences that come under the "dark arts" heading. It's unfortunate that someone got hurt & I hope he makes a quick & full recovery but let's not have a witch hunt.
EDIT: on re-reading my #97 I see I didn't make it clear that I meant it was absurd to blame Crockett & only Crockett for the injury.
I'm pretty sure every prop got pinged st least once last night for various offences that come under the "dark arts" heading. It's unfortunate that someone got hurt & I hope he makes a quick & full recovery but let's not have a witch hunt.
EDIT: on re-reading my #97 I see I didn't make it clear that I meant it was absurd to blame Crockett & only Crockett for the injury.
Dan54
Tim Horan (67)
I go along with WOB on this, that is a ridiculous statement even for a forum, where we expect some not too bright ones!!
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