ISA Rugby 2014

[Hugh Jarse]

@Ruck and Maul101, is that the official team list or a guess?

If it is the team, it looks like the ISA selectors have gone for youth, speed and mobility to counter the CHS team, which looks to have some impressivley sized units in it with questions over their mobility and ability to execute, and counter, a fast paced game plan.

Provided the young'uns don't get too bashed up by the CHS folk, it should be a top encounter against CAS as well.

 

[Cyclops]

Mother nature really smiled on the Rugby carnival at Orange, on the weekend, where St Pats made the journey to Kinross territory. Punters were digging through their luggage, in the hope that they may have brought a T-shirt, amongst the jumpers and scarves.

Whilst the match-of-the-round was at Oakhill, St Pats vs Kinross carried a lot of importance; the single round competition is not sympathetic to any losses and both of these teams had their sights set on a top-4 finish.

The final score of 31-30 sums up the game quite well. The teams were never more than a converted try from the lead. The kicking was excellent from both sides; penalties and conversions. Essentially, the difference between the teams was the stellar performance of the Kinross number 15. He was almost untouchable in kick return and when he linked up with the backs; especially in broken play. He may have scored 2 tries (not sure how many) but when he saw daylight, a try was always on the cards.

St Pats had the edge in the forwards. Strong running and surprisingly good hands was a feature of their phases and the Pats tries came on the back of the hard work in the middle. On the other hand, Kinross tended to do better out wide. They created the overlap with clever plays and returned fire with points to keep the game level.

There was a thrilling moment early in the game, when the Pats 15 broke the line and approached his opposite number. Pat's 15 put on a 'shimmy' and skirted round his rival and they set out on a 30 metre dash to the corner. Pat's 15 grounded the ball and took the corner post. The linesman had 'dozed off' back behind the 50m. He heard the commotion, put his hand up, and said 'bingo' The referee had no alternative but to assume this meant 'no try'.

In the last quarter of the game, the teams went into 'golden point' mode. Every score was high 5's and back-slapping. The clock seemed to go on forever. When Pats scored and converted to make it 30-28, surely, this was victory; with 2 grains of sand remaining in the hour glass. From the restart, you guessed it - Kinross number 15 made a bust and looked try-bound. Approximately fifteen cover-defenders from Pats had other ideas and the play went into touch around the Pats 22m. Full-time?, not yet. Kinross turned over possession from the ensuing lineout and play bogged down around the centre of the Pats 22m. As the sun sank westward, the referee was temporarily blinded by a reflection from a set of bagpipes. He had no alternative but to rule the bagpipes off-side and a penalty to Kinross, right in front. 31-30. Full-time.

Disappointment of the day:
3 points: Kinross grandstand: 'three cheers' for the carded Kinross player who king hit Pats 15, after previously being penalised for punching
2 points: the west side linesman, who was not up to standard for this fixture. misruled on a ball that was out by a metre; refused to mark the off-side position when Kinross was defending; (and the 'thrilling moment' above)
1 point: The Kinross students and bags sprawled well into the roped off area in front of the grandstand, almost on the touch line and impeding the linesman referred above.

Play of the day:
3 points: The Kinross 13Bs coach. After a thorough flogging, he warmly addressed the St Pats team and genuinely wished them all the best for the season.
2 Points: The St Pats students who manned the scoreboard and ensured the First XV match was enjoyed by all.
1 Point: Green, soft and well marked rugby fields, well organized carnival, steak sandwiches; a trip to remember for the Pats contingent.

 

[Quick Hands]

L. Lough seems to have defensive frailties at 12 perhaps 15 might be better for him + he has a big boot. Where do St Augs play him the majority of the time ?

Plays fullback for them I'm told. That may be the reason.

 

[the baz]

Where would u find the selected first and seconds isa? Looking to see if any stannies made the squads.

 

[Wood Rat]

ISA 1sts predominantly oaks and Augustine's
There are some stannies lads in 2nd XV sorry not near any mor complete info at the moment

Sorry about the previous misspelling I don't know if fraud has any explanation for the predictive text mishaps

 

[Wood Rat]

But Freud does have clear insight to my attempt at psychology

 

[Gregor]

@Ruck and Maul101, is that the official team list or a guess?

If it is the team, it looks like the ISA selectors have gone for youth, speed and mobility to counter the CHS team, which looks to have some impressivley sized units in it with questions over their mobility and ability to execute, and counter, a fast paced game plan.

Provided the young'uns don't get too bashed up by the CHS folk, it should be a top encounter against CAS as well.

I recall ISA will have 5 days to recover after their game against CHS before taking on CAS. CAS on the other hand has only 3 days to recover from their game against GPS before backing up to play ISA.

 

[Sideline Eye]

Has anyone seen the CHS and CCC teams, as well as the various ISA boys selected into their rep teams, play this season as yet, and have a preview / prediction for Sunday's matches at Rat Park???

NSWSRU U18 Trials @ Pittwater Rugby Park No.1 Sunday, 15 June ‘14
CHS II V CNTY - 12.15PM
ISA II V CCC - 1.30PM
ISA I V CHS I - 2.45PM

CCC def CHS 2 : 17-5
CHS 1 def CHS 2 : 12-5
CHS 1 def CCC : 17-7

The scores in second trial on Thursday at Cranbrook were:
CAS II drew CHS II : 26-all
CAS I def CHS I : 28-19

There's a match report on the 1sts encounter here from Lee Grant: http://www.greenandgoldrugby.com/cas-beat-chs-in-first-nsw-schools-trial/

Hugh Jarse might have some comments to make...?

^^^
CCC will probably be a good match up for ISA 2's.

 

[Hugh Jarse]

ISA vs CHS:

History will be against the CHS lads.

At Under 16 level in 2012 and 2013, the ISA U16's have prevailed.

In U18 in 2013, ISA I prevailed over CHS I.

The ISA team this year appears to be a combination of the previous two years U16s and the returning veterans of the ISA I's from 2012. On that basis, CHS must go into this match as underdogs.

However, there are a number of fresh faces in CHS, and there are some bulky lads in their piggies. The fresh faces will not respect past results, and the bigger piggies may be able to frustrate ISA plan to get quick ruck ball on the front foot, which will most likely be the basis of their game plan.

There should be an intriguing battle for the breakdown, and with Walker. Lough Snr and Anderson operating like a gang of pickpockets on the London Underground, the CHS boys will need to bring their A Game to have any expectation of quality phase ball.

Without Tukipili to provide some starch in the ISA fatties, they may struggle to gain parity in the gruntier parts of the game. Vatuvei has been very impressive for Parramatta Colts 1 and will probably prove a real handful for his opponents at scrum and lineout time. The CHS fatties lead by Ivic, and Bradfield should dominate at set piece, and ISA would be well advised to avoid any protracted arm wrestles in the forwards.

The backs will do what backs are supposed to do - determine how much the winning side wins by.

Hope the weather holds. Rat Park is one of the best venues to enjoy rugby on a sunny winters day.

 

[Slugga]

Anyone have the isa 16's team list?

 

[Wood Rat]

ISA vs CHS:

ISA fatties, they may struggle to gain parity in the gruntier parts of the game..

Knowing these piggies that dirty word will not be on their mind

 

[rugbyfanatic123]

Pats lead Gregs 40-0 at halftime

 

[rugbyfanatic123]

Pats defeat Greg's 80-0

Standouts were captain Daniel Calavassy grabbing a double and #20 Drew Denford also grabbed 2. As a whole, the team were very difficult to stop and never looked like letting Greg's into the match.

Greg's struggled to compete with the pace of the game that Pat's were playing at and when given opportunities, they would follow up with a turnover of some sort. Jaydon Faavae (#9) showed glimpse's of hope however was shutdown quite well by Pat's.

 

[Quick Hands]

Gregs are really starting to struggle in the ISA Div 1. Any idea what the margins were like in the other A grade games?

 

[Cyclops]

Gregs are really starting to struggle in the ISA Div 1. Any idea what the margins were like in the other A grade games?

That is a conclusion on this score alone QH; but not really applicable here, for a number of reasons.

Word on the sideline is that Greg's were down 8 regular firsts, due to injury. Players came up from the seconds and U16's to make up the numbers. And yet, Greg's second XV recorded a comfortable win over Pat's.

St Greg's is a proud rugby league school. It is a credit to their administration that they have engaged our code. A lot of the Greg's players were backing up from their MCS duties on Thursday. 16A result was close; Sorry, I don't have results for other games; My understanding is that it was a competitive day in most games.

Now to the game itself, and how the score got so large. St Greg's fielded a tough, athletic team. Their one-on-one defence was strong; truly, this was a tough game, in the middle. Pat's forwards were dominant, but not to the extent indicated by the score. The game was decided at the breakdown, and the resulting penalty count (also around 80-0). Toward the end of the match, even the Pat's supporters were wincing, as more and more penalties emerged from the rucks.

There is really only a half-a-second for a player to release the ball or to release the tackled player. This became the key difference between the teams. I was told that most of the Greg's forward pack were not specialist rugby forwards. St Greg's had a promising pre-season and a couple of reasonable losses in ISA rounds 1 & 2. I hope they can recover in the holidays and come back strongly for the later rounds. On the other hand, St Pat's were at full strength and they used their extensive reserve bench, throughout the second half.

Suffice to say that the bounce of the ball was going St Pats' way. 12 tries, including a phenomenal 106 metre effort, in counter to a strong Greg's foray, was a great result for Pat's. 10 from 12 conversions pushed the scoreline even higher.

Play-of-the-day:
At the end of the afternoon tea, the St Greg's boys filed through the St Pat's parents and shook each and every hand, thanking them for the hospitality. They made their way to the buses with heads held high.

My uncle was a principal at Greg's, before these guys were born. He would certainly be proud of this fine bunch of gentlemen, who showed courage and dignity, in the face of such a difficult outing.

 

[Quick Hands]

That is a conclusion on this score alone QH; but not really applicable here, for a number of reasons.

Word on the sideline is that Greg's were down 8 regular firsts, due to injury. Players came up from the seconds and U16's to make up the numbers. And yet, Greg's second XV recorded a comfortable win over Pat's.

St Greg's is a proud rugby league school. It is a credit to their administration that they have engaged our code. A lot of the Greg's players were backing up from their MCS duties on Thursday. 16A result was close; Sorry, I don't have results for other games; My understanding is that it was a competitive day in most games.

Now to the game itself, and how the score got so large. St Greg's fielded a tough, athletic team. Their one-on-one defence was strong; truly, this was a tough game, in the middle. Pat's forwards were dominant, but not to the extent indicated by the score. The game was decided at the breakdown, and the resulting penalty count (also around 80-0). Toward the end of the match, even the Pat's supporters were wincing, as more and more penalties emerged from the rucks.

There is really only a half-a-second for a player to release the ball or to release the tackled player. This became the key difference between the teams. I was told that most of the Greg's forward pack were not specialist rugby forwards. St Greg's had a promising pre-season and a couple of reasonable losses in ISA rounds 1 & 2. I hope they can recover in the holidays and come back strongly for the later rounds. On the other hand, St Pat's were at full strength and they used their extensive reserve bench, throughout the second half.

Suffice to say that the bounce of the ball was going St Pats' way. 12 tries, including a phenomenal 106 metre effort, in counter to a strong Greg's foray, was a great result for Pat's. 10 from 12 conversions pushed the scoreline even higher.

Play-of-the-day:
At the end of the afternoon tea, the St Greg's boys filed through the St Pat's parents and shook each and every hand, thanking them for the hospitality. They made their way to the buses with heads held high.

My uncle was a principal at Greg's, before these guys were born. He would certainly be proud of this fine bunch of gentlemen, who showed courage and dignity, in the face of such a difficult outing.

There's no doubting the commitment of the Gregs boys and it's great to see the school engaged in rugby.

I recall when they played Augustines last year, all the age groups were up in the 60s or 70s. I wouldn't like the school or the boys to be put off rugby by being on the receiving end of scores like that on a regular basis - which is why I asked about the other scores.

 

[Wood Rat]

SA 41(7 tries) Stannies 19 (3 tries) in Bathurst
26-0 half time

 

[Wood Rat]

ON ISA v CHs, ISA won clearly. I think by 41-19 or 46-19. 7 or 8 tries to 3
after an early try scored by CHS big blokes and strong running was followed quickly by an intercept try for CHS to lead 14-0 at about 10 minutes. The ISA team started to play rugby and managed to control the breakdown and possession.

The Oak hill lads and St Augustines players that made up the bulk of the ISA 1stXV did not have a bye yesterday, the slow start and tired performance of some of them may well have reflected this
on occasions.
Parity was granted to the CHS pack but ISA could have been more dominant in the very polite scrums that were shared equitably.

 

[Sideline Eye]

ON ISA v CHs, ISA won clearly. I think by 41-19 or 46-19. 7 or 8 tries to 3
after an early try scored by CHS big blokes and strong running was followed quickly by an intercept try for CHS to lead 14-0 at about 10 minutes. .

Final score was ISA 41 CHS 24. 7 tries to 4.

 

[Quick Hands]

ON ISA v CHs, ISA won clearly. I think by 41-19 or 46-19. 7 or 8 tries to 3
after an early try scored by CHS big blokes and strong running was followed quickly by an intercept try for CHS to lead 14-0 at about 10 minutes. The ISA team started to play rugby and managed to control the breakdown and possession.

The Oak hill lads and St Augustines players that made up the bulk of the ISA 1stXV did not have a bye yesterday, the slow start and tired performance of some of them may well have reflected this
on occasions.
Parity was granted to the CHS pack but ISA could have been more dominant in the very polite scrums that were shared equitably.

And Augustines wouldn't have got back from Bathurst until 9 or 9.30 last night. 3 and half hours there and back with a tough game and then back up today - anyone who can do that and win gets my complete admiration.