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John Thornett (49)
My apologies, being on the iPhone makes it difficult to see everything at once. And my comment was generally in relation to qwerty's "get fucked bryce" comment.
Rebels v Waratahs Round 2 - 2012R02 - Dunlop Shield III
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spooony
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Iphone does that. Inflate a ego.....
AngrySeahorse
Peter Sullivan (51)
Tom Carter "What happens on the field stays on the field" lol.
Overall I thought the Tahs started very well but dropped off in intensity & made a lot more errors (or seemed to). Scrum didnt seem as good in this game.
Rebels got on better in the second half, defence was found out a bit but they didnt do too bad as the game got older. Happy to give them some slack as they had the bye first round.
Not a bad game.
Overall I thought the Tahs started very well but dropped off in intensity & made a lot more errors (or seemed to). Scrum didnt seem as good in this game.
Rebels got on better in the second half, defence was found out a bit but they didnt do too bad as the game got older. Happy to give them some slack as they had the bye first round.
Not a bad game.
Bruwheresmycar
Nicholas Shehadie (39)
You have pretty much got to give a card if you give penalty try.
qwerty51
Stirling Mortlock (74)
Ugh no it's quite the opposite, a card and penalty try is way over the top. Either a card or penalty try is usually how it's done. The double is pretty harsh.
tigerland12
John Thornett (49)
Oh please do elaborate....
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spooony
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LMOA Just kidding
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
ha, I get very wound up during a game, I'm much more sensible after it, you can't take live comments seriously at all
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Question: Why was Johan Goosen sent off without the option of a warning first?
At the start of season, referees had meetings with the coaches at different levels (Super 15, Vodacom Cup, Varsity Cup, etc) . Here they communicated the key focus areas that will be given priority in their matches. One of these key priorities was the tackle. Great emphasis was put on the tackler that needs to release and roll away immediately.
In the case of the game between the Lions and Cheetahs this weekend, the Cheetahs had already infringed at numerous tackles, and a general warning had been given to Adrian Strauss, the captain.
Furthermore, the Lions had broken the defensive line of the Cheetahs and the tackler, Johan Goosen, realised that a quick ball for the Lions could mean a try, seven points. Therefore he made no effort to roll away, in the hope of slowing the ball down so that his team could re-organise their defensive structure. This is a cynical infringement or professional foul (rather concede the penalty than the try)
This means that there were two reasons for his yellow card.: (1) The general warning to the team for repeated infringements at the tackle and (2) for cynical infringement for slowing the ball down.
http://www.sareferees.co.za/news/ref_news/2851804.htm
So if another guy in the teams gets a warning it is a warning basically for the whole team. Does not matter if someone else was warned.
At the start of season, referees had meetings with the coaches at different levels (Super 15, Vodacom Cup, Varsity Cup, etc) . Here they communicated the key focus areas that will be given priority in their matches. One of these key priorities was the tackle. Great emphasis was put on the tackler that needs to release and roll away immediately.
In the case of the game between the Lions and Cheetahs this weekend, the Cheetahs had already infringed at numerous tackles, and a general warning had been given to Adrian Strauss, the captain.
Furthermore, the Lions had broken the defensive line of the Cheetahs and the tackler, Johan Goosen, realised that a quick ball for the Lions could mean a try, seven points. Therefore he made no effort to roll away, in the hope of slowing the ball down so that his team could re-organise their defensive structure. This is a cynical infringement or professional foul (rather concede the penalty than the try)
This means that there were two reasons for his yellow card.: (1) The general warning to the team for repeated infringements at the tackle and (2) for cynical infringement for slowing the ball down.
http://www.sareferees.co.za/news/ref_news/2851804.htm
So if another guy in the teams gets a warning it is a warning basically for the whole team. Does not matter if someone else was warned.
Slim 293
Stirling Mortlock (74)
Nope. Usually a card is handed out with a penalty try.
Dumbledore
Dick Tooth (41)
Moral victory to the Rebels then.
Seriously though, congrats 'Tahs. Limited, but brutally effective. Good to see Palu running around properly again, Timani Jr. looks class as does Foley.
The ref is perfectly entitled to give a yellow after a penalty try if they deem it fit.
To say they usually do that seems a stretch. Most penalty tries seem to come from scrum infringements, and my impression is that a yellow card is the exception rather than the norm.
No problem with the decision today, if he felt TPN collapsed the maul at that point. I have some doubts as to whether he was the worst offender there - others seemed to be offside where he seemed to come from the back and took down the subsequently isolated man. It was certainly a penalty try, I feel, but not definitely worthy of yellow in retrospect.
Dumbledore
Dick Tooth (41)
It was only against the Tahs, I'm not too worried.
Wasn't a great night for it in fairness, there was a nasty wind, bit chilly... not that many people out and about. It wasn't particularly heavily promoted either.
Really? I was not aware of that.
I sit corrected. Wonder why it happens only sometimes.
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