Reds vs Waratahs - the war before the war

[Swat]

That is really sad Swat...... (Closest to throwing up I can get)

Sorry, I've got a really dark sense of humour. I didn't mean it, of course you should hit kids, especially other peoples.

 

[suckerforred]

Sorry, I've got a really dark sense of humour. I didn't mean it, of course you should hit kids, especially other peoples.

Oh dark I can deal with. This was just........... wrong. Funny but wrong.

 

[suckerforred]

Right, so if someone head-highs Barnes after the whistle (as long as they were "committed" to the tackle) you'll be showering them with praise?

Now Godfrey that is just asking for trouble.

 

[Godfrey]

Kind of my point - reckless, dangerous shit after the whistle gets penalised. I don't think there's a grey area here. Probably the only time Dean Mumm has hurt someone in a tackle anyway.

 

[qwerty51]

Right, so if someone head-highs Barnes after the whistle (as long as they were "committed" to the tackle) you'll be showering them with praise?

No because they hit him high. Anyway Quade Cooper has already done that to Barnes and it was even in that game, don't remember anyone complaining.

Just so you know, I'm not saying it wasn't a penalty, it shouldn't have been a suspension - especially because he was already carded.

 

[Schadenfreude]

A shoulder charge to the back is ok?

I think I know someone who deserves one.

 

[qwerty51]

A shoulder charge to the back is ok?

I think I know someone who deserves one.

I'm not sure why you think the back matters? It's legal to hit someone in the back, maybe Fainga'a should not have turned his body as well as being on the wrong side of the ruck. Was this illegal by Beau?

As for a shoulder charge that is pretty laughable stuff, that's how Brad Thorn cleans out every game.

 

[Godfrey]

Occurred before the whistle, so not relevant. Hitting someone after the whistle is cowardly - more so from the back. That's just common sense. Anyway, I think we've all made our points on it so time to move on

 

[Schadenfreude]

As for a shoulder charge that is pretty laughable stuff

You know I never really understood the state rivalry, but now I think I understand. It's not because you're mexican, it's because you support gutless scum play like a shoulder charge in the back after the whistle.

 

[Swat]

You know I never really understood the state rivalry, but now I think I understand. It's not because you're mexican, it's because you support gutless scum play like a shoulder charge in the back after the whistle.

Exactly the type of comment that perpetuates the rivalry. Just learn that not everyone can or will agree with you, and don't judge a whole state on the basis of one differing opinion.

 

[cyclopath]

Just removed that last little bit. It may have been ironic, but it was hardly going to edify the thread, Swat.

 

[suckerforred]

I'm not sure why you think the back matters? It's legal to hit someone in the back, maybe Fainga'a should not have turned his body as well as being on the wrong side of the ruck. Was this illegal by Beau?

Ahh no, but I am guessing that is the wnswer you were looking for....?????

 

[Swat]

Just removed that last little bit. It may have been ironic, but it was hardly going to edify the thread, Swat.

Of course it was supposed to be ironic. I was going to go with "bloody" but it lacked the impact and as such might be misconstrued, ah well.

 

[suckerforred]

OK. Putting aside the fact that we want the refree to look after the laws of the game and the be consistant and acruate...

Are the Reds going to have the ame plan to suceed without QC (Quade Cooper)?
Are the Tahs going to be able to compete without the ever growing list of injuried players that seem to be about?

Sensible arguements backed , if not with fact, with factual opinion would be good. That is the one game that I am not really sure of on the tipping.

 

[Schadenfreude]

Can the Tahs break the line? I'm not sure who among them can.

 

[Swat]

OK. Putting aside the fact that we want the refree to look after the laws of the game and the be consistant and acruate...

Are the Reds going to have the ame plan to suceed without QC (Quade Cooper)?
Are the Tahs going to be able to compete without the ever growing list of injuried players that seem to be about?

Sensible arguements backed , if not with fact, with factual opinion would be good. That is the one game that I am not really sure of on the tipping.

To speak honestly I really don't have a clue. The reds have played well in their trials and have more depth in the positions where they have injuries. The tahs played well in the trials but the quality of the opposition was poor. The tahs have injuries to 2 of their best attacking weapons in mitchell and turner but the reds have lost mr magic himself in QC (Quade Cooper). Pretorius may have attacking flair but how will his defence hold up? How will genia go after becoming quite stale in play after the tri-nations last year? How will Harris go starting at 10? Will Rob Horne snap in half during the first tackle or will he make it the full 80? How far has fat cat come along since his injury? Will palu be back to his best? Will home ground advantage help the tahs? Will there be more reds fans in the crowd? (a possibility given tahs piss poor marketing) As of yet we don't know what the teams will be or how the teams will play. It's a long season and this is just the start.
My heart wants the tahs to win, I'd back them even if they were playing the All Blacks and had EPS guys starting and Barnes was unconscious. Will they? I don't know...
Fuck it, I'm tipping a draw.

 

[qwerty51]

Can the Tahs break the line? I'm not sure who among them can.

Think you guys should be more worried about that as you did only score 1 try against us in two games and the one that did score that try is not playing.

 

[RugbyFuture]

all reds fans should want the tahs to win....since thats what happened last year....

 

[What2040]

all reds fans should want the tahs to win....since thats what happened last year....

logic ????

 

[What2040]

To speak honestly I really don't have a clue. The reds have played well in their trials and have more depth in the positions where they have injuries. The tahs played well in the trials but the quality of the opposition was poor. The tahs have injuries to 2 of their best attacking weapons in mitchell and turner but the reds have lost mr magic himself in QC (Quade Cooper). Pretorius may have attacking flair but how will his defence hold up? How will genia go after becoming quite stale in play after the tri-nations last year? How will Harris go starting at 10? Will Rob Horne snap in half during the first tackle or will he make it the full 80? How far has fat cat come along since his injury? Will palu be back to his best? Will home ground advantage help the tahs? Will there be more reds fans in the crowd? (a possibility given tahs piss poor marketing) As of yet we don't know what the teams will be or how the teams will play. It's a long season and this is just the start.
My heart wants the tahs to win, I'd back them even if they were playing the All Blacks and had EPS guys starting and Barnes was unconscious. Will they? I don't know...
Fuck it, I'm tipping a draw.

Swat, agree with most but more you ask more questions than a Barrister going for the jugular. Reckon real close to a draw but same with me and the Reds (by 5) (I hope)