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RWC 2015 Final - Australia v New Zealand, Twickenham, Sunday 1 November, 3:00 AEDT

Discussion in 'Rugby Matches' started by Hugh Jarse, Oct 26, 2015.

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  1. mudskipper Colin Windon (37)

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    Data base is way too different NZ had such an easy Pool group. Wallabies stats are more realistic thou.
  2. Omar Comin' Chilla Wilson (44)

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    Why should superstitions come into it? It's a business matter. The ARU and NZRU would benefit from the big matches being played later regardless of whether they made the finals or not. The more people watching, the better for rugby in our countries.

    And as the two most successful countries in rugby world cup history, Australia and New Zealand have plenty of bargaining power. Next time there's a European world cup I'd like to see the ARU and NZRU demand evening kick offs for the finals.
  3. Bullrush Jim Lenehan (48)

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    And yet against better opponents in the quarter/semi, the Wallabies missed even more tackles?!
  4. Highlander35 Paul McLean (56)

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    Course it's not due to DW. It's a small factor. But ITV will want 4pm because historically that'll be around when Sport rates highest in the UK.

    Avoiding traditional prime time means they'll pick up significantly more of the casual market as well. While no right minded Rugby fan would ever put anything but the cup game on, there would be non-insignificant swathes of the population who'd choose to put on one or both of the other two instead. It also lets them run their regular prime time TV as well, rather than shifting that around, which always hurts ratings.

    While it sucks and in an ideal world it would be different, it was likely a decision that would have had to have been made for any domestic broadcaster to give the money they have done. Suits the South African and European markets, whom all prefer afternoon to evening and would be greater contributors for the almighty $.
  5. mudskipper Colin Windon (37)

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    In my eyes. Wallabies need to contain the All Blacks to under 20 points. If they can and this can be achieved with some control they're a real chance of bring Bill home.

    IF the ABs score more than 25 points they could likely win.. While not impossible but highly unlikely the Wallabies aren't likely to score more than 30 points against the ABs. thats history and just a sensible fact..

    In our advantage we have an in form team. However the ABs may have their best team ever on paper but have been hot and cold this year with such talent.
  6. Omar Comin' Chilla Wilson (44)

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    So why are the Euro16 finals all being played at 9pm?

    I think it's ridiculous to be honest. The difference in ratings between 4pm and an evening kick off would not be substantial in Europe (an evening kick off may even do better). Yet they will be substantially lower in Australia and New Zealand.

    And Australia and New Zealand - I'm talking about the unions, have a tonne of bargaining power. I'm disappointed they don't think of this stuff, I mean it's only their fans (and potential fans) that get affected.
  7. Jellic87 Chris McKivat (8)

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    I wouldn't necessarily say our opponents in the quarters/semis were 'better'. Wales and England are definitely not to be sneezed at!
  8. Slim 293 George Gregan (70)

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    3am > 6am

    I'm not waking up early on a Sunday to watch a rugby match sober/hungover...
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  9. EatSleepDrinkRuck Larry Dwyer (12)

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    This is too much.

    I can't handle the pressure of this final and all I have to do is make it to the pub by 1am.

    No wonder I never made it past a District Rep team. I'm sure the selectors wrote 'would freak out if he ever made a RWC Grandy, DO NOT SELECT' followed by 'my son played well - SELECT TO START AS CAPTAIN'
  10. Quick Hands David Wilson (68)

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    This current All Black team has been on top of the world for 4 years and contains two players in Carter and McCaw who would be amongst the best All Blacks ever. They'll be difficult to beat. Our team is on the rise and we're playing our best rugby for years - pity Cheika hasn't had the team for another year or two. It should be a great game and whoever wins will be deserved world champions.
  11. Quick Hands David Wilson (68)

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    I'm not really sure that Australia and NZ have a lot of bargaining power here. While NZ has a rugby mad population, it's a tiny market in terms of viewers world wide and even though Australia is a bigger market overall, rugby is nowhere near our major sport. Even with us making the final, there would be a substantial part of the population oblivious to the RWC even being on, let alone us being in the final.
  12. Braveheart81 Rocky Elsom (76)

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    Maybe they allow the country hosting the event to run it as they see fit because when they host it they expect to be able to do exactly the same without interference?

    There's also a substantial difference to people's lifestyles in Europe between the height of Summer and now as well as temperatures. It's not surprising that they want to play the big matches as late as possible when it will be 30-35 degrees in the middle of the day.

    I think you should definitely write angry letters to World Rugby, the ARU and NZRU to tell them how ridiculous you think the whole thing is.
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  13. teach Trevor Allan (34)

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    I have noted Dismal's absence from these forums. I have a horrible feeling that his new avatar, that I forced him to adopt after he lost the bet, has stifled all creativity and flair. Much like it stifled all the creativity and flair of the Auckland Blues.

    Dismal, if you are reading this, I release you from the terms of the bet. Feel free to ditch Kirwan.
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  14. terry j Ron Walden (29)

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    AND make damned sure those tyres have a brand new coat of tyre black on them. Cause I'm gonna run all over those blacks just like we did on the weekend.
  15. ACT Crusader Jim Lenehan (48)

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    Watching day time rugby even on the TV is great. So I'm glad with the starting time.

    First world problem there Omar, so it's far from 'ridiculous'
  16. The_Brown_Hornet Michael Lynagh (62)

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    Indeed. Unleash The Pillock!
  17. tragic Trevor Allan (34)

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    F@#k that.
    I'm over watching the last 30mins with my heart in my mouth and butt cheeks clenched tighter than a tenors trousers.
    Gimme a 15 point lead with ten to go any day..
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  18. dru Simon Poidevin (60)

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    TJ, my local Balmain pub is now advertising being open for the game. Dry Dock corner College St & Camerob St opposite Mort Bay Park and close to Thames St ferry.


    It's a workers pud rather than anything special. These guys won't be the only one. I'd also give Dicks and the three Weeds (Rose, Shamrock and Thistle) a go.
  19. Groucho Greg Davis (50)

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    Cheika will taper this week. All the tough conditioning was specifically so that they could taper this week, rather than tapering earlier, having more energy in the quarters and semis, and then running out of puff in the final.
  20. Quick Hands David Wilson (68)

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    Maybe he's tapering?;)
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