Hmm, not much in that, coming across in cover, and a split second after ball is passed. You know, it is OK sometimes for McCaw to be tackled!
RWC 2015 Final - Australia v New Zealand, Twickenham, Sunday 1 November, 3:00 AEDT
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Hmm, not much in that, coming across in cover, and a split second after ball is passed. You know, it is OK sometimes for McCaw to be tackled!
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David Wilson (68)
All good, well thought out points @Gnostic.
No. I'd say it's a problem for other teams to raise their standards and try to match them. Plenty of NH teams in particular have high player numbers so no reason they cannot.
No, it isn't ideal for a sport to be so dominated, I agree, but the impetus for change has to come from the chasing pack, not the front-runners.
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Frank Nicholson (4)
Hmm, not much in that, coming across in cover, and a split second after ball is passed. You know, it is OK sometimes for McCaw to be tackled!
I was talking about the height of the tackle - not so much the timing.
Not too worried about it - just adding to the point that Kepu was on that fine edge you talked about earlier.
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David Codey (61)
He said something like that. I think he knew Kepu wouldn't have been able to fully pull out but because Carter decided to fake injury for a while he thought he had to do something about it.
I'm not against the penalty - but it was certainly a 50/50 call.
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David Wilson (68)
I can see the irony and sarcasm in all those points except the bit about the "...fickle, fluffy bunny opinions on Green and Gold Rugby." Between us, I'm 100% sure we know all there is to know about rugby, and unquestionably more than any ref who has ever officiated in any game.
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David Codey (61)
Normally if agree, but is suspect Owens knew the first penalty was very marginal so didn't really take it into account in his thinking. Even the high tackle, while a definite penalty was only an inch misplaced and at the very low end of a foul.
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
I've now had a sleep & a feed and watched a replay. Seems to me that had Smith not been (rightly) carded it could have ended in a flogging. Wobs just looked flat from the get-go & losing Douglas & Giteau did them no favours.
In terms of the bits people are bleating about:
The irony of Barnes missing a forward pass that results in an AB try would've been brilliant, but IMO it's flat out've the hands at worst.
Owens clearly didn't want to RC Smith, I reckon he said "penalty only" in the hope/ expectation Veldsman would recommend a YC, that being the correct decision.
Anyhoo, 'Twas a great game, best RWC Final ever IMO & not just cos we won it. In the end I think your schedule caught up with you: earlier someone put up the minutes played by each of your blokes, someone else then added the numbers for the AB. I'd love some one to add in the Super Rugby minutes, reckon every one of your blokes would have a higher number than the guy they marked last night.
Someone also said something about this WC being a year too early for the Wobs, after last night I'd have the concur (same person also said it was a year too late for AB, they got that bit wrong; and of course our old mate @qwerty51 has been banging on forever about Carter (MOTM) & McCaw being past it, on the evidence of last night they clearly weren't).
Lastly I see Fairfax are trying to manufacture a stomp out've a fairly standard bit of breakdown play. A bit like McCaw's supposed elbowing of Louw or Pocock's supposed kneeing of the Welsh guy. Absolute media beat-up BS. I note that none of the "stories" are open for readers comments, reckon that's so no one can tell them how full of shit they are.
Wearing my AB jersey to work tomorrow & taking a stuffed kiwi that plays "Ka Mate" when squeezed. Which it will be. Repeatedly. Playing "Waltzing Matilda" 10-12 times on Friday cannot go unpunished
In terms of the bits people are bleating about:
The irony of Barnes missing a forward pass that results in an AB try would've been brilliant, but IMO it's flat out've the hands at worst.
Owens clearly didn't want to RC Smith, I reckon he said "penalty only" in the hope/ expectation Veldsman would recommend a YC, that being the correct decision.
Anyhoo, 'Twas a great game, best RWC Final ever IMO & not just cos we won it. In the end I think your schedule caught up with you: earlier someone put up the minutes played by each of your blokes, someone else then added the numbers for the AB. I'd love some one to add in the Super Rugby minutes, reckon every one of your blokes would have a higher number than the guy they marked last night.
Someone also said something about this WC being a year too early for the Wobs, after last night I'd have the concur (same person also said it was a year too late for AB, they got that bit wrong; and of course our old mate @qwerty51 has been banging on forever about Carter (MOTM) & McCaw being past it, on the evidence of last night they clearly weren't).
Lastly I see Fairfax are trying to manufacture a stomp out've a fairly standard bit of breakdown play. A bit like McCaw's supposed elbowing of Louw or Pocock's supposed kneeing of the Welsh guy. Absolute media beat-up BS. I note that none of the "stories" are open for readers comments, reckon that's so no one can tell them how full of shit they are.
Wearing my AB jersey to work tomorrow & taking a stuffed kiwi that plays "Ka Mate" when squeezed. Which it will be. Repeatedly. Playing "Waltzing Matilda" 10-12 times on Friday cannot go unpunished
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David Codey (61)
Just rewatching and he says 'there was a split second where you could have pulled back a little bit'
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David Codey (61)
Also just re-watched the no knock on call near the end of the first half. There were two prett clear knock ons by NZ in a row and perhaps one by Aus.
However Owens was so far away from the play he wasn't in a position to make the call. He actually asked the touch judge 'knock on or play on'. He obviously gets the play on call as a few seconds later says 'play on'.
So it seems that both poor misses at the end of the half were due to the touch judges not Owens (assuming they both answered his question - and he heard the response).
You could argue that Owens should have been in a position to make the calls himself, but it is clear the support from the touch judges wasn't adequate.
However Owens was so far away from the play he wasn't in a position to make the call. He actually asked the touch judge 'knock on or play on'. He obviously gets the play on call as a few seconds later says 'play on'.
So it seems that both poor misses at the end of the half were due to the touch judges not Owens (assuming they both answered his question - and he heard the response).
You could argue that Owens should have been in a position to make the calls himself, but it is clear the support from the touch judges wasn't adequate.
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David Codey (61)
The call that didn't go Fardy and Pocock's way in the lead up to the first NZ try was certainly at Owens feet.
Not only does Fardy get on the ball, he is then held by Carter who has gone off his feet, then Franks comes in to clean out Pocock from almost perpendicular to the sideline. Pretty blatant infringements and hard to see how the Wallabies didn't win a penalty here.
Not only does Fardy get on the ball, he is then held by Carter who has gone off his feet, then Franks comes in to clean out Pocock from almost perpendicular to the sideline. Pretty blatant infringements and hard to see how the Wallabies didn't win a penalty here.
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Andrew Slack (58)
Agree with what you say except that bit.
Tom Brady could not have thrown it any better down the field.
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Simon Poidevin (60)
ps people complaining about all the kiwi fucktards on their "facebook feeds" (?) have ZERO recourse.
It's facebook.
You signed up for it.
It's your fucking fault.
You don't see awesome corrosively-handsome pricks like me on fuckin' "facebook."
Are you also the type of person who, on sunny afternoons, voyages out to the Mangere sewage ponds, of your own accord, and then proceeds to get very, very cross when the Mona Lisa itself is not bobbing around out there, half-submerged in the execrable effluence and excrement? "It's not fair! This sucks! Where are the priceless works of art? Fuckin' WHERE?"
It's facebook.
You signed up for it.
It's your fucking fault.
You don't see awesome corrosively-handsome pricks like me on fuckin' "facebook."
Are you also the type of person who, on sunny afternoons, voyages out to the Mangere sewage ponds, of your own accord, and then proceeds to get very, very cross when the Mona Lisa itself is not bobbing around out there, half-submerged in the execrable effluence and excrement? "It's not fair! This sucks! Where are the priceless works of art? Fuckin' WHERE?"
Anytime we complain about Fairfax journalism here, just be thankful we don't have this piece of toejam to put up with. He makes a living pissing the Kiwis off, now he shows everyone how not to win.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/new...rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/new...rss&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
Cory Jane on Twitter:
https://mobile.twitter.com/CoryJane1080
Nice. Even our Governer General got in on the act:
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https://mobile.twitter.com/CoryJane1080
Nice. Even our Governer General got in on the act:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CSrI-fBUYAA-HnF.jpg
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Dick Tooth (41)
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George Gregan (70)
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Dick Tooth (41)
teach, I'm not a huge Kurtley Beale fan, (as many regulars here would know), however, even with limited opportunities, in this campaign, IMO, he is the #1 Australian #15 at the moment.
Folau is not delivering to his ability. Kurtley looks dangerous, every time he gets the ball.
I believe in giving credit where it's warranted.
I would have stuck the "under-performing" Folau on the bench!
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