Mr Doug
Dick Tooth (41)
Miss Doug, (in Canada), told me today that the Wallabies lineout has suffered from the absence of Sam Carter! I know she's biased, but maybe she's right?!
RWC 2015 Final - Australia v New Zealand, Twickenham, Sunday 1 November, 3:00 AEDT
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Miss Doug, (in Canada), told me today that the Wallabies lineout has suffered from the absence of Sam Carter! I know she's biased, but maybe she's right?!
Mr Doug
Dick Tooth (41)
It's sad that a brilliant sporting team like the New Zealand All Blacks has to suffer such a large mob of wankers as their "cheer squad"!!
Alex
Jimmy Flynn (14)
I thought it was Mitchell - certainly whoever chased and caught the kick and gave the final pass was well offside. It is why selectively focussing on individual incidents is a waste of time.
Furthermore, I have no issue with humans making errors of fact. Judging by the range of perspectives on this board most of us have made plenty of them even with the benefit of replays - we can't all be right. Thats rugby - the ref is the sole arbiter of fact and we live with it. In any event the ABs so completely won the set piece and the gain line that no amount of turnovers and scrambling defence (frankly our strengths) were going to be good enough. An if a ref had orchestrated a result where they were, it would not have been fair.
Edit: ironically having read further it looks like I made an error als despite having viewed it a number of times
The_Brown_Hornet
John Eales (66)
I knew without even following the link that it would be Rattue. He's a prize dickhead.
Pfitzy
George Gregan (70)
Its not a large mob. Its a loud, small mob. Of fwits.
Disproven already , earlier in this very thread - note ball has already left Genia's boot and he is ahead of the 15m line marker. Foley is marked, standing on 5m line marker (they are parallel and of length). Other player next to him retreated, and was put onside.
Mr Doug
Dick Tooth (41)
Mr Doug
Dick Tooth (41)
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Andrew Slack (58)
You do realise that you can email him from the bottom of the article.
Just saying like.
He actually replies. Bless him.
Mr Doug
Dick Tooth (41)
Too much, too soon, Mr Jarse!!
Time for: (a) Reflection, and;
(b) a couple of bets on "Trip to Paris", and "Who Shot Thebarman", in the Melbourne Cup, then we can look at the above!
Mr Doug
Dick Tooth (41)
Mr Doug
Dick Tooth (41)
Ditto for me too, DP!
HayFarmer
Bob McCowan (2)
Congrats to the AB's they were too good on the day with the Wobs making too many mistakes.
As a ref I was disappointed in Owens' game, he's getting too slow to the breakdown etc & his policing of foul play was dumbfounding. I couldn't believe that after him watching numerous replays of Ben Smith's tackle on Drew Mitchell he was only going to give a penalty initially. Are International laws different to our Aust Game Management Guidelines which state- " If a tackled player is lifted & lands on his shoulder or head area it should result in a red card" and " Any time a tackled player's legs are lifted above horizontal it should result in a yellow card as a minimum"?
I'm glad he didn't give a red card being a final and all, but Smith & the AB's were very lucky indeed as Mitchell clearly landed on his shoulder then his head. It would've spoilt the match but laws are laws especially when relating to dangerous play. Mitchell could've ended his career in a wheel chair.
For my other two bobs worth- I think Joubert was hard done by in his treatment especially since he didn't have the use of replays in his decision in the Scotland game. He's fit, mobile & an experienced ref & would've been a better choice over Owens IMO.
As a ref I was disappointed in Owens' game, he's getting too slow to the breakdown etc & his policing of foul play was dumbfounding. I couldn't believe that after him watching numerous replays of Ben Smith's tackle on Drew Mitchell he was only going to give a penalty initially. Are International laws different to our Aust Game Management Guidelines which state- " If a tackled player is lifted & lands on his shoulder or head area it should result in a red card" and " Any time a tackled player's legs are lifted above horizontal it should result in a yellow card as a minimum"?
I'm glad he didn't give a red card being a final and all, but Smith & the AB's were very lucky indeed as Mitchell clearly landed on his shoulder then his head. It would've spoilt the match but laws are laws especially when relating to dangerous play. Mitchell could've ended his career in a wheel chair.
For my other two bobs worth- I think Joubert was hard done by in his treatment especially since he didn't have the use of replays in his decision in the Scotland game. He's fit, mobile & an experienced ref & would've been a better choice over Owens IMO.
Lorenzo
Colin Windon (37)
For the life of me I cannot understand the love for Owens. Is it his banter people find charming? Joubert has been by some margin and for some time the world's best referee and would certainly have been a better performer last night. Because he just refs the game - there's no bullshit banter - and, being a SH ref, can handle a very fast match.
That said, I think we lose (and convincingly) under any ref.
To add to the comments made so far about our performance - we are still materially inferior when it comes to kicking in general play. The ABs were able to move the action at will on account of both B Smith and Carter having big and accurate boots. I know that we cannot manufacture a fully functional fly half at will, but it seems that weve been behind in this respect since the likes of Latham and Burke required. Mitchell was (i have seen written) in part attractive because of his kicking but I don't think he made a kick all tourney that he didn't shank the shit out of. Folau isn't a test 15 when it comes to kicking prowess.
There are always cracks that can be papered over when we are playing the likes of Scotland, or Wales, Or Arg or even England or SA. It doesn't work against New Zealand - at least not 90% of the time. I think we need to work balancing the ball-in-hand game with a sound field position game.
I think we got an excellent result. 4 weeks ago I wasn't sure we'd make the quarters. We showed we were at worst the equal second best team in the world last night and it's been a while since we could honestly say that.
That said, I think we lose (and convincingly) under any ref.
To add to the comments made so far about our performance - we are still materially inferior when it comes to kicking in general play. The ABs were able to move the action at will on account of both B Smith and Carter having big and accurate boots. I know that we cannot manufacture a fully functional fly half at will, but it seems that weve been behind in this respect since the likes of Latham and Burke required. Mitchell was (i have seen written) in part attractive because of his kicking but I don't think he made a kick all tourney that he didn't shank the shit out of. Folau isn't a test 15 when it comes to kicking prowess.
There are always cracks that can be papered over when we are playing the likes of Scotland, or Wales, Or Arg or even England or SA. It doesn't work against New Zealand - at least not 90% of the time. I think we need to work balancing the ball-in-hand game with a sound field position game.
I think we got an excellent result. 4 weeks ago I wasn't sure we'd make the quarters. We showed we were at worst the equal second best team in the world last night and it's been a while since we could honestly say that.
Highlander35
Andrew Slack (58)
Joubert has been on a downward spiral since 2013. No confidence in his abilities.
Walshy was my favourite before the cup, despite his tendency to love watching his own arse on the screens.
Barnes is undoubtedly the best England has to offer, that says more about English refs than it does about him.
Peyper is Peyper. Poite is ok, but never brilliant.
Owens is consistently a class above at Pro12, European Cup and 6 Nations level, he only ever appears to have problems with Australia and the Blecks.
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Walshy was my favourite before the cup, despite his tendency to love watching his own arse on the screens.
Barnes is undoubtedly the best England has to offer, that says more about English refs than it does about him.
Peyper is Peyper. Poite is ok, but never brilliant.
Owens is consistently a class above at Pro12, European Cup and 6 Nations level, he only ever appears to have problems with Australia and the Blecks.
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brokendown
Vay Wilson (31)
FFS leave the ref out of it.we were beaten by a better side
end of story
get it?
end of story
get it?
Lorenzo
Colin Windon (37)
brokendown
Vay Wilson (31)
just pointing out the obvious-no need to be so touchy
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