Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
It's the old adage, a team is better off not being coached at all than being coached badly.
RWC 2015 Semi Final 1 - NZ vs RSA Twickenham
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It's the old adage, a team is better off not being coached at all than being coached badly.
Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
Gnostic
Mark Ella (57)
I wonder if those in charge of Bokdom will now look at the outdated mode of play they have been running ever since Jake White was in charge. Also take note Wales and England.
All three of the above mentioned teams had the players and skills in their squads to play an attacking game. They didn't, they played a risk averse game and did absolutely nothing with the ball in hand. The worrying thing for many rugby supporters in these nations wanting to see some endeavour from their sides is the easy argument is already being made that these sides were not far off beating the sides that have beaten them. In the case of Australia V Wales and last night in this game the ABs and Australia played pretty poorly. Australia defended very well and met the questions asked of them, and last night the Bok asked no questions really, and the ABs I thought were pretty average.
Also I hope Larkham and the Brumbies take note, these tactics will get you wins against average attacking sides, but against a side that really attacks with some accuracy, even a tier 2 side like Japan, it will get you a loss.
My final thought is that the old rule that no team has ever won the RWC and lost a pool game should again be true.
All three of the above mentioned teams had the players and skills in their squads to play an attacking game. They didn't, they played a risk averse game and did absolutely nothing with the ball in hand. The worrying thing for many rugby supporters in these nations wanting to see some endeavour from their sides is the easy argument is already being made that these sides were not far off beating the sides that have beaten them. In the case of Australia V Wales and last night in this game the ABs and Australia played pretty poorly. Australia defended very well and met the questions asked of them, and last night the Bok asked no questions really, and the ABs I thought were pretty average.
Also I hope Larkham and the Brumbies take note, these tactics will get you wins against average attacking sides, but against a side that really attacks with some accuracy, even a tier 2 side like Japan, it will get you a loss.
My final thought is that the old rule that no team has ever won the RWC and lost a pool game should again be true.
teach
Trevor Allan (34)
Is going fishing during an All Black test grounds for revocation of NZ citizenship?
Not when the game is screening at 4am so we don't need to depart until game over.
At least I didn't bet against the ABs. I know a certain someone sporting a shiny new avatar based on last weeks game.
Not saying who, but:
teach
Trevor Allan (34)
"Would you like them in a bag, Sir?"
"No, that's ok, just unwrap the plastic and I'll pop them into my little fishing net here."
Is that smiley avatar of the Guru Kirwan getting to you?
Gnostic
Mark Ella (57)
I should also have mentioned tha I was shocked at how poor the kicking from hand was from the Boks. The overused box kicks getting poor distance, and a couple none at all, and the ball rarely going out to play to what one would have assumed would be a Bok strength, the lineout. All round a very limited display by the Bok.
Teh Other Dave
Alan Cameron (40)
They lost 4 against the throw this morning. Makes me wonder if they were deliberately forcing NZ to run it out or into a kicking duel.
Dan54
Tim Horan (67)
fair enough Scotty, post was meant to be very tongue in cheek.
The_Brown_Hornet
John Eales (66)
This was the right result I think, the AB's clearly played nearly all the footy out there last night and deserved the win. The Boks could have done a lot more I feel and in fact there were a few times in the first half where they had the pill and a decent roll on, only to kick the bloody thing away. I don't get that.
Baldric
Jim Clark (26)
The score flattered the Boks. Not sure how much longer Meyer has on his contract but I fear that the loss by two points might be translated into a good enough performance for him to keep his position.
We really do need an injection of fresh ideas into the Bok team. We lose anyway so we may as well lose playing good rugby.
We really do need an injection of fresh ideas into the Bok team. We lose anyway so we may as well lose playing good rugby.
waiopehu oldboy
Stirling Mortlock (74)
Long after the non-elbow & non-forward pass are forgotten I hope this is remembered:
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/...s-compassion-in-moment-of-Rugby-World-Cup-joy
http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/...s-compassion-in-moment-of-Rugby-World-Cup-joy
Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
Regardless of what people say about the Springbok style of play, immense credit goes to them for the defence and their commitment. The All Blacks had 57% of possession, 67% of territory and could still only win by two points. The Boks were also very disciplined - only conceding 3 penalties in their own half, so it can't be said that cynical infringements stopped the ABs scoring more tries.
Yes, the weather played a small part, but credit where it is due.
Yes, the weather played a small part, but credit where it is due.
mark_s
Chilla Wilson (44)
I am late to the party as I've only just seen the game. Credit to the all blacks, they controlled the game from about when Kaino got binned. Even though it has a thrilling game, it was difficult to see boks scoring by other than a penalty goal. The defence from both teams was huge, although the ABs job was made easier by the boks predictability. You have to wonder if the might have been another YC against the ABs for the accumulated penalties if the boks were showing more endeavour. My replay had stransky commentating and even he was calling for the boks to put the ball through some hands, but they only really chanced it after the 80th minute. Anyways, the ABs have shown they can win games with both their attack and defence against top teams. They will be strong favourites for the final.
Graces had a great game I thought.
Graces had a great game I thought.
ACT Crusader
Jim Lenehan (48)
The only problem with that scenario is the fact Garces blew his whistle. When he blows the whistle the play stops. Unless of course he didn't blow his whistle or Pietersen scores the try before he blows the whistle. But then Garces already had the arm out.
So no try.
Cardiffblue
Jim Lenehan (48)
I thought he was consistent which is always good but I wondered why he stopped pinging the all blacks for offside in the backline after 10 mins. He could've awarded far more penalties to sa as the nzers weathered the storm of early penalties and carried on infringing. There was no room or time for the sa forwards to make the gain line as a result
Cardiffblue
Jim Lenehan (48)
Loved the game. Thought the South Africans could have done more if their game plan wasn't so limited. They have the forwards to beat anyone. Strangely tho they got hammered in the lneouts until. Matfield came on. De Preez box kcks were brilliant to start but then when it started raining got longer and just gave the ball back. Hats off to Hansen for his game plan. Force sa to play out from deep and then stifle their running. De Allende and kriel were great to begin with but then got suffocated as the game went on. Right result but imho South Africa have the making of a great side if they'd adopt a more attacking style
ACR
Bob Davidson (42)
Not strange, AB's have best lineout at the moment. Simple.
Agree with all the rest.
mxyzptlk
Colin Windon (37)
That was done by the Baby Blacks in the Under 20 World Championships, and by Ireland a couple of times, against South Africa, with Cronin zipping around to sack the ball carrier. It's not illegal, nor a big secret, just not something many expect.
Cardiffblue
Jim Lenehan (48)
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