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George Gregan (70)
Except they aren't. It's fucking super hard to beat a team that does literally nothing. Bit of a problem hey.Geez DP, any team that plays rugby like that should be pretty easy to beat shouldn't they?
Wallabies vs Ireland - 3rd test - Saturday 23rd June 2018 - Sydney Football Stadium
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Lorenzo
Colin Windon (37)
God that's stupid.
You say 'just defend' as if defence isn't half of what rugby (and frankly more than half of what test rugby) is all about. Maybe you should watch the NBA or something instead.
You say never try anything when their first try followed a very well executed kick that put our guys under great pressure.
It sounds like your problem is with our sport.
Some other things they do well:
Ball carrier support. I think their pre-binding tactic winds up amounting to side-entry but the refs allow it so they'd be mad not to continue doing it. When did Australia last come up with a slightly controversial tactic that gained us an advantage? I guess Cheika makes everyone stand 10m behind the line at restarts...print those RWC final tickets!
Contestable kicks. When they kick short, the kicks are contestable. How many restarts of ours have you seen that go just far enough that we can't contest? Perhaps we should go long on every kick so they at least have to run the ball back upfield a bit.
The Irish played rugby well. They can scrum, tackle, ruck, pass, catch, lineout and kick well. They also adapt to the variable referring well.
Maybe Australia should start doing the same.
You say 'just defend' as if defence isn't half of what rugby (and frankly more than half of what test rugby) is all about. Maybe you should watch the NBA or something instead.
You say never try anything when their first try followed a very well executed kick that put our guys under great pressure.
It sounds like your problem is with our sport.
Some other things they do well:
Ball carrier support. I think their pre-binding tactic winds up amounting to side-entry but the refs allow it so they'd be mad not to continue doing it. When did Australia last come up with a slightly controversial tactic that gained us an advantage? I guess Cheika makes everyone stand 10m behind the line at restarts...print those RWC final tickets!
Contestable kicks. When they kick short, the kicks are contestable. How many restarts of ours have you seen that go just far enough that we can't contest? Perhaps we should go long on every kick so they at least have to run the ball back upfield a bit.
The Irish played rugby well. They can scrum, tackle, ruck, pass, catch, lineout and kick well. They also adapt to the variable referring well.
Maybe Australia should start doing the same.
Derpus
George Gregan (70)
Or what it has become anyway.
The Red Baron
Chilla Wilson (44)
What intrigues me is that some of the depth problems we seem to have are inverse to the depth problems we have had historically. We've got good depth in the front row and a good stock of locks, but we are really thin on the ground as far as the backline is concerned.
Up the Guts
Steve Williams (59)
We won the majority of our restarts when kicking short bar the one where Folau got carded. Our scrum was more dominant, we conceded less tries over the whole series, and we didn't lose a lineout this test or the last. I'd say we are doing the same as them in fact I'd go as far as to say if we'd lost as many kickoff receipts as them, had a scrum that looked like getting penalised every feed like theirs, and backline defence was as poor as theirs out wide we'd all be saying the team hasn't improved since 2015. What cost us this series was skill execution breaking down at exactly the wrong moment and giving away too many penalties.
I dont know what this photo was from, probably a line-out, but it isnt the action that lead to Folau getting binned
wamberal
Phil Kearns (64)
Maybe this is because the NRL and other league competitions at all levels are less interested in players with the body type to play in our tight five? So we have a bit better selection pool?
Back line players, and backrowers, are more attractive to the other code.
Lorenzo
Colin Windon (37)
So we are doing everything well until we don't?
Worrying about how many tries each team scored returns us to the root of the problem: focusing on anything other than what is required to win a rugby match.
Up the Guts
Steve Williams (59)
Well, it's easy to be pessimistic but the fact is if Foley had put that through the hands we would have won the series.
wamberal
Phil Kearns (64)
Folau certainly did make contact, but nothing at all like that. One hand only, and only glancing. I thought it was a bit harsh, definitely worth a penalty, it might have been a card according to the letter of the law, but then the law is an ass.
Brumby Runner
David Wilson (68)
Deegan?
Dismal Pillock
Simon Poidevin (60)
Up the Guts
Steve Williams (59)
Can't go on about how good the Irish defence is if you don't acknowledge ours is as least as good. Fact is two years ago after the England Series we knew if we came up against them in a World Cup knockout stage it was our campaign over. There's no way if we draw Ireland in a semi we have that sort of mentality.
Lorenzo
Colin Windon (37)
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David Wilson (68)
Ah, come on. As soon as you put Josh Holmes' name forward, then your post loses credibility. Josh played for the Brumbies for a couple of years so I am very familiar with his hot and cold efforts.
Short had a fairly good game yesterday but nothing spectacular and if that was Strang in the Uni side, then he is quite far behind. Gordon is a very good player who has been out of form this year and Phipps really should call it a day at national level.
To quote from the playbook of a couple of very well known Tahs' posters on this site, better judges than you are likely to be have selected Powell in the Wallabies' squad over the past year or so, so he must have something that you just cannot see.
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David Wilson (68)
Yes, he was OK but could have been better. Some of his passing was off target, just as Phipps' passing was earlier in the game. Support players to both of them had to jump to take the ball, or delay their run. By far the worst example of a poor pass was the one, admittedly under knock-on advantage, by Phipps on the Wallabies' tryline that really went to no-one.
Powell does take the line on himself occasionally, which is apparently what the coaches want (I recall Cheika saying something similar late last year) which gives him an extra dimension over Phipps.
Brumby Runner
David Wilson (68)
Very true. And Coleman looked to use his arms in that cleanout, so a penalty for a shoulder charge would have been wrong. In from the side maybe, but that doesn't seem to be penalised much these days. As you say, it was under penalty advantage anyway, so WTF?
Watch this space...
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