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NSW AAGPS 2022

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AroundTheAnkles

Dave Cowper (27)
14a Scots 7- Joeys 25
14B's scot's 21 - Joeys 12
13A Scot's 5 - Joeys 27
Not sure about 13B's
16A's Scots won 22-14 Joeys
16B's scot's won 27-12
15A's scot's big loss due to all the players missing because of glengarry.
15B's unsure

@Joker to help fill in the gap I have checked with my spies

Joeys 15a’s 61-7 over Scots.

I know that Glengarry limits the pool of players for Scots however Scots elected uncontested scrums from the get go (this is A grade) and Joeys played the Mercy rule dropping to 12 players by the end of the match. They also gave a number of lower grade boys a go and experimented with a number of A players in new positions. The match also finished quite early as one poor Scots boy suffered a bad leg injury.
 

propsarespeedy

Ted Thorn (20)
@Joker to help fill in the gap I have checked with my spies

Joeys 15a’s 61-7 over Scots.

I know that Glengarry limits the pool of players for Scots however Scots elected uncontested scrums from the get go (this is A grade) and Joeys played the Mercy rule dropping to 12 players by the end of the match. They also gave a number of lower grade boys a go and experimented with a number of A players in new positions. The match also finished quite early as one poor Scots boy suffered a bad leg injury.
Last terms u15 Scot's team had probably 11/15 A players from 2021 U14, unfortunately this team are an unlucky to only have a very small amount of former A's players. I've heard that Max laverty from scot's played quite well. One of the good things about Glengarry related to rugby is that it allows people who would usually be B's/C's players to have experience in the a's going into the 16's and opens.
 

Eyes and Ears

Bob Davidson (42)
From all reports it was a close even game. Hard to say that without 1 player the Scots team don't win? Scots' families on Saturday (after a reunion) said the 16'a game was back and forward. Scots having trouble kicking out of the red zone, this nearly cost them the game?
View v Shore was not a great spectacle. Yellow cards and a three way round robin in this age group in the middle of the GPS season has to be questioned. This means we will only play 3 genuine GPS games after our wash out with Scots and the three-way gala day on Saturday.
What were the scores in the 3 way round robin?
 

The Front Rower

Ward Prentice (10)
From all reports it was a close even game. Hard to say that without 1 player the Scots team don't win? Scots' families on Saturday (after a reunion) said the 16'a game was back and forward. Scots having trouble kicking out of the red zone, this nearly cost them the game?
View v Shore was not a great spectacle. Yellow cards and a three way round robin in this age group in the middle of the GPS season has to be questioned. This means we will only play 3 genuine GPS games after our wash out with Scots and the three-way gala day on Saturday.
Agree with your comments joeys were very good pinning Scot’s down in the left corner and tried to kick out of their. It was a great game
 

AroundTheAnkles

Dave Cowper (27)
Last terms u15 Scot's team had probably 11/15 A players from 2021 U14, unfortunately this team are an unlucky to only have a very small amount of former A's players. I've heard that Max laverty from scot's played quite well. One of the good things about Glengarry related to rugby is that it allows people who would usually be B's/C's players to have experience in the a's going into the 16's and opens.
Why don't Scots balance the Glengarry groups a bit better? in the old days (30 + years ago) Scots made sure the majority of A grade players were back for the comp games. For mine it seems extremely dangerous to chuck lower grade players into this environment. Based on what I have been told the Joeys team went extremely easy on Scots and played at about 3/4 pace or less. If Joeys didn't self impose the mercy rule, allow Scots to maintain 15 players even though Scots elected to go uncontested before kickoff and treat this like a training run / trial the score would have been 100+.... I don't see how that is a good experience for anyone.
 

Taralga

Stan Wickham (3)
Why don't Scots balance the Glengarry groups a bit better? in the old days (30 + years ago) Scots made sure the majority of A grade players were back for the comp games. For mine it seems extremely dangerous to chuck lower grade players into this environment. Based on what I have been told the Joeys team went extremely easy on Scots and played at about 3/4 pace or less. If Joeys didn't self impose the mercy rule, allow Scots to maintain 15 players even though Scots elected to go uncontested before kickoff and treat this like a training run / trial the score would have been 100+.... I don't see how that is a good experience for anyone.
I know some of the U15 Scots boys and Glengarry has played havoc with them as always. Been told that some of the boys who are forwards lost a heap of weight and conditioning while at Glengarry combined with little training and no trials. The Scots A team apparently had no subs as all the lower grade boys refused to step up for multitude of reasons. I cant see it getting any better for the last 2 games. I think The Scots B's (basically Ds, Es and Fs) played Joey's Es on Saturday - may have been a more appropriate game.
 

Joker

Peter Sullivan (51)
Tipping....Round FIVE

Last weekend there was some movement on the board as a few really enjoyed that 10 point reward for picking the correct margin. Even yours truly managed to fluke a result with Shore v View.

This weekend same rules apply.

3 for a win
5 for a win within your point spread
10 for a win predicting the exact winning margin
1 for a draw
20 for a predicted draw.

TIPS- Week 10.jpg
 

BringTheBiff

Peter Burge (5)
Does anyone have a detailed report from the Shore vs View game. Sounds like a cracker, I was out at at Stanmore.
Any stand-out players seen?

Sidesy
Great game, Shore 10's kicking game was unstoppable again with a 40m field goal before halftime to go up by 3. Shore captain Jackson stiel was a standout again scoring 2 tries and having 1 disallowed. Shore 15's speed was too much for view defence at times.

1st Half
The game was back and forth with shore scoring first through number 1 of a nice short ball. 7-0 Shore

View hit back with a half the field effort finished off by number 11 where he did great work not to step out. 7-7

Shore number 15 scored the next try skipping on the outside of 2 defenders to roll over in a great individual effort. 12-7 Shore

View number 18 with fresh legs scored a nice hit and spin try through some soft defence. 12-12

On half time Shore number 10 slotted a beautiful drop goal from 40m out to put shore up 3 at half time

Halftime Shore 15 - View 12

2nd half

Shore attacked the blindside with a great run from number 11 to get them in a good position. Number 1 burrowed over from a pick and go. Very strong player. 22-12

Another sweet blindside play saw number 12 make a break and put a perfectly weighted kick for number 15 to chase and grab his 2nd of the afternoon. 29-12

A strong run from view number 12 somehow found his way to the line through a sea of dark blue jerseys to bring view back into the game. 29-17 Shore
Off a nice set play from a scrum View number 12 puts View number 13 through a nice hole to stroll over the line. 29-22 Shore

Shore get a penalty goal from 38m out with a nice strike from shore number 9 who was great on the boot all day. 32-22 Shore

Quick tap from View number 10 gets good metres for eventually a great run breaking some tackles before a hit and spin the crash over. View number 12 grabs the ball and takes a quick drop goal conversion. 32-29 Shore

Shore had a scrum in the last minute where number 15 kicked the ball dead. View number 10 ran to the 22 and attempted a short drop out where he was tackled and lost the ball.

Shore kicked the ball out and the celebrations and field raid began from all the old boys and students celebrating Shores first 1st XV win in 6 years.

Final Shore 32 - View 29

Great overall game of footy. Shore were fired up to bounce back off a disappointing loss last week.

BTB
 
Bit off topic here. Is there any talk about what the best players from this season are doing next year?. Would love to see some of these kids stay in the rugby union system rather than being poached by league.
Cheers, schoolboy specialist
 

Black & White

Vay Wilson (31)
I know some of the U15 Scots boys and Glengarry has played havoc with them as always. Been told that some of the boys who are forwards lost a heap of weight and conditioning while at Glengarry combined with little training and no trials. The Scots A team apparently had no subs as all the lower grade boys refused to step up for multitude of reasons. I cant see it getting any better for the last 2 games. I think The Scots B's (basically Ds, Es and Fs) played Joey's Es on Saturday - may have been a more appropriate game.

Hello Taralga
And with the a outdoor campus planned to start in 2024 for Newington. We can expect the same issues to emerge within Newington Rugby. I think Michael Parker, is a great Headmaster, but I don't think the outdoor campus a is a great decision. It's impact on sport at Stanmore, will be detrimental to our capacity to fulfil our GPS commitments, particular Rugby. As it stands we field only 4 teams in the 15s and three in the 16s.

As for outdoor education, all the skills and experiences can be performed, by a well run Cadet Corps, during the Holidays or in the last week of term. That is my experience of outdoor education and it worked well my for year group. So from an educational viewpoint, all Newington and I will include Scots, are doing is reinventing the wheel. Meanwhile our Rugby at 15s, in particular will suffer. Further, other schools will find Newington and Scots, less attractive to play against, because of the absence of competitive teams.

The money would have been better spent on increasing boarding facilities, so New boys don't have to travel far,before and after school. Thereby, improving their capacity to study within the confines of an academic environment,related to their school work.
 
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TheScrumScientist

Frank Nicholson (4)
Bit off topic here. Is there any talk about what the best players from this season are doing next year?. Would love to see some of these kids stay in the rugby union system rather than being poached by league.
Cheers, schoolboy specialist
I am aware of quite a few player going to north korea with their strong rugby program dropping bombs like Burton
 
Bit off topic here. Is there any talk about what the best players from this season are doing next year?. Would love to see some of these kids stay in the rugby union system rather than being poached by league.
Cheers, schoolboy specialist
I heard the #11 from Joeys (Ben Whyte) signed with the tigers on a respectable deal. I also believe Jack Barret is playing for the lightning ridge tigers from 2023 onwards. Another couple gone to league.
 

Rugby Survivor

Ward Prentice (10)
Wondering if those at Joeys v Scots noticed how narrow the number field was. Have been informed and checked it myself while I was there that the field was at least 4 metres narrower than it has been all year.
Not sure who that favoured but with Max Jorgensen not playing it may have been the wrong decision.
 

Rudderless

Vay Wilson (31)
In the 2nd XV this Saturday we have a top of the table clash between Kings and Scots at Parramatta....both undefeated after 3 rounds.
 

OffHisFeet

Frank Row (1)
After three games and a disappointing but deserving loss to Shore, Riverview seem to be playing a fair bit below the typical standard we've seen set in the past decade. Watching the game on clutch the sub-par service from View #9 put view behind the 8 ball early on, contributing to the ignatius forward pack losing the contact battle to the Shore. We rarely see a Shore side win a physicality battle but based off what I can see on the clutch Shore were able to march down field in a quick fashion. However, I will credit the Riverview kicking game from #15 relieved them from pressure throughout the match. It is with this vanilla brand of footy being played by Riverview I fear their results for the remainder of the season. Despite the atmosphere and spirit that is seen in the Joeys/View clash I question whether it will be enough to make the game a genuine contest. I sense that an inform strong Joeys side is going to dominate a disappointing/weak View side making the game at Leichhardt a one-sided affair.

It makes me think whether it's a culture change or whether the grade 12s have not been developed into a strong group.
 
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