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Quade telling it how it is

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waratahjesus

Greg Davis (50)
Holy fuck, I find this ironic. The same people who shit bag the ARU and Deans, shitbag Cooper for Shitbaging the ARU and Deans..

Sigmund Freud would be truly stumped..

Not really, a big difference between fans posting on a forum and a player. Freud probably would have got that.
Nor would he have found irony in it as no one has said he was wrong, but rather the way he went about saying it.
 

Hugh Jarse

Rocky Elsom (76)
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Funnier things happen Jiggles.

This weekend has seen two huge announcements about our two favourite topics, Sir Richie and QC (Quade Cooper).

One announcement that we are all possibly reading too much into, from the subject himself, may result in him not wearing Gold anymore. Either that or it could be the first shot in a war which may result in the early demise of our third favourite topic, the National Coach, Robbie Dingo Deans.

The other announcement has come through the more traditional means of the News Media. No Sir Richie GOAT for 6 months next year.

What is going to happen next, Rugbys "villians" agreeing to attend counselling sessions for their agression and agreeing to behave themselves, QLD and NSW supporters agreeing on selections, No one bagging referees, Soap Dodgers scoring tries....?

The natural order of things in the Universe is in danger of having a tear ripped in the space time continiuum.
 

dave

Stan Wickham (3)
Holy crap. I doubt Cooper would have made these comments without consulting Link. Looks like the putsch is on to get rid of Dingo before the spring tour
If it is a strategy it had to be someone else putting him up to it. Otherwise it's simply idiotic to publicly criticise his employer, no matter how on the money he may be. He must know he isn't indispensable and there'll be repercussions.

JON isn't a small problem in this either. If someone/Link is pulling the strings I hope they/he cast a wide net as JON is likely to stick us with Nuci, possibly the worst case scenario.

You also, probably wisely, truncated this gem, "but at the same time I don't want to be a pawn in things that aren't moving forward" What does this even mean?
 
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Inside Shoulder

Nathan Sharpe (72)
Holy crap. I doubt Cooper would have made these comments without consulting Link. Looks like the putsch is on to get rid of Dingo before the spring tour
I have always had a an opinion of link that would preclude him being involved in behaviour like this.
But the putsch must be on if he is talking about the next coach: clearly Deans ain't going to be reappointed - so now we're just marking time.


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emuarse

Desmond Connor (43)

@qwerty51 - I've read a few of your bitter posts in this thread and others over time about Quade Cooper - which suggests you have some personal problem with him.
It occurred to me that you just might be Richie McCaw's pen name, but then it also occurs to me that McCaw is a rugby player which you probably never were.
 

fatprop

George Gregan (70)
Staff member
I think Mr Deans and the ARU may have to read this

Narcissistic and Entitled to Everything! Does Gen Y Have Too Much Self-Esteem?

No one looks the way I do.
I have noticed that it's true.
No one walks the way I walk.
No one talks the way I talk.
No one plays the way I play.
No one says the things I say.
I am special.
I am me.
Gen Y - people born between 1978 and 1997 - grew up singing that nursery song. Today many parents and psychologists wonder if songs like that were not big mistakes.
In the 1980s world of child rearing, the catchword was "self-esteem." Unconditional love and being valued "just because you're you!" was the prevailing philosophy. In practice, it involved constantly praising children, not criticizing them under any circumstances, emphasizing feelings, and not recognizing one child's achievements as superior to another's. At the end of a season, every player "won" a trophy. Instead of just one "student of the month," schools named dozens. Teachers inflated grades from kindergarten through college: "C" became the new "F." No one ever had to repeat a grade because staying behind caused poor self-esteem.
The result of these child-rearing practices has been a measurable increase in narcissism and a generation that has a deeply embedded sense of entitlement, according to authorities like Dr. Jean Twenge, author of Generation Me: Why Today's Young Americans are More Confident, Assertive, Entitled and More Miserable Than Ever. Dr. Twenge of San Diego State University studied more than 16,400 students who took the Narcissistic Personality Inventory between 1982 and 2006. In 1982, only a third of the students scored above average on the test. Today that number is over 65%.
The new trend toward self-centeredness and self-love might be bad for society. Dr. Twenge warns that narcissists lack empathy, overreact to criticism, and favor themselves over others. They are incapable of cheering anyone else's success. Ultimately, they led miserable lives because they cannot form and maintain healthy relationships.
According to a report in the Wall Street Journal, corporations like Lands End and Bank of America are hiring "praise teams" to keep up with Gen Y's demand for constant positive reinforcement. Other generations believed that as long as no one fired them, their work must be okay. Gen Y needs constant praise in the form of emails, awards, celebration balloons and other such tangible recognition of their work or they become anxious.
The constant stream of praise has resulted in what psychologist Dr. Linda Sapadin calls "a runaway inflation of speech." No girl is pretty: she's drop dead gorgeous. That guy is a genius (not merely bright). Dr. Sapadin says the word "nice" is a put-down.
Gen Y's need for affirmations often accompanies an intense sense of entitlement. A therapist with the Aspen Education Group describes it as "I want it now! Now! I have to have it right now!" A Gen Y with a sense of entitlement will also refuse to take responsibility when he makes a mistake. For example, if he gets a speeding ticket, he expects his parents to pay for the ticket and increased insurance premiums and to keep on driving as if nothing happened.
Refusing to stand up to the demands of Gen Y is causing financial problems for many parents. Ian Pierpoint, an executive with market research company Synovate, coined the phrase "gold-collar kids," who insist on expensive brand names like Versace or Dolce and Gabbana. The problem is that many gold-collar kids have blue-collar parents who go into credit card debt to meet their children's demands (many of whom still live at home well into their twenties).
Because Gen Y parents have always treated their children as friends and equals, by the teen years they have learned to use bad behaviors to get what they want. As Dr. Susan Jennings says, "If the kid gets what she wants, she's all sweetness." If not, she'll tantrum, sulk, and otherwise torture her parents until she gets her way.
Therapists who work with troubled teens often talk about their sense of entitlement as a major hurdle in the struggle to help them. Teens feel entitled to their life-styles, no matter how self-destructive. If a parent reared her child with the attitude "I don't want to interrupt his happiness for even one moment," the teen will have a hard time establishing the discipline and willpower necessary to work through addictions and behaviors such as alcoholism, substance abuse, promiscuous sex, mismanagement of anger, compulsive shopping, and so forth.
The advice from experts is for parents to "toughen up" by following some general guidelines:
    • Put limits on spending by giving your teen an allowance. When it's gone, there's no more until next time.

    • Let your teen face the natural consequences of his behavior. If he bangs up your car, let him pay for it.

    • Teach your child to apologize to others, to understand their point of view, and otherwise demonstrate "emotional intelligence."

    • Watch how you use praise. The late prominent educator John Holt warned parents that praising a child is a massage to parental egos: building up the child becomes a form of building up yourself. Give specific praise for a specific piece of work or action. For example, tell the child, "You did a great job on that picture," and not "You're a great artist." Don't use praise to manipulate as in "You're so brilliant, you could be a doctor."

  • Let children earn self-esteem from working hard and achieving in a real way.
The bad news is that most Gen Y parents will be unable do these things.
"You have to be willing to have your kids not like you," Dr. Jennings said. "Today's parents aren't willing to do that."
 

biggsy

Chilla Wilson (44)
It is getting a bit old, I'm surprise that no reds have tried to talk to him a out what he is doing.
I think he is bored of the style of rugby the ARU play, don't blame him.
But this is a In house issues not crap to put on twitter
 

Scotty

David Codey (61)
Just because Cooper doesn't keep you personally abreast of his every activity, doesn't mean they are only limited to what you see (Twitter). Do you think he doesn't participate in community programs with the Reds? Do you really think he isn't negotiating with his employers about his future employment? Do you really think he hasn't considered his life after rugby just because he hasn't communicated it to you? I can assure you that Cooper does all of these things. I have a sneaking suspicion he is aware of gym work and rehabilitation too.

It is hard to express just how much twaddle this is.

And my question for #1 tah:

Would you really give your life to play a sport for your country?
 

Scotty

David Codey (61)
Yes he should get on twitter and tell us about all the good things he does. That would go down a treat.

And yes I like the guy. He's a good player who gives more time than he needs to to fans and does a bit of charity work what's not to like. But calling people a fanboy for defending him against this dross is a bit rich. None of us fanboys have started threads about how cool he is and then posted multiple examples of how cool he is. Yet you and others have come into this and other threads have a go at him lots of times. You 'know nothing about the guy' but that hasn't stopped you commenting on him. WJ doesn't 'dislike' the guy but he can't stay away. Frankly he's not even my favourite Reds player, I just couldn't stand the vitriol spewing from your keyboards.

The 2 tweets where less than 280 characters but you and your mates are still going on about it days and pages later.

Tremendous post, Sully.

(oh shit, I hope people don't think I am being your fan boy for saying that.)

Can we shut this thread down yet?
 

Karl

Bill McLean (32)
I don't know why reds fans are supporting Quade, if he gets his way, you lose link.

Why can't he do both with Wallabies taking precedence if there is a clash? The Reds can have a structure that would cope with a few Link absences, but the overlap would be minimal.
 

Inside Shoulder

Nathan Sharpe (72)
I think the ARU need to ask SANZAR if it can play its tests back to back otherwise these threads take on a life of their own in the 2 week breaks - hey, maybe QC (Quade Cooper)'s just bored like us?
 

louie

Desmond Connor (43)
Deans should have been sacked after the world crap. It's absurd he still has his position. The players don't trust and this is what it's come too. Wouldn't have been needed if JON had done his job.
 

Gagger

Nick Farr-Jones (63)
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I have always had a an opinion of link that would preclude him being involved in behaviour like this.
But the putsch must be on if he is talking about the next coach: clearly Deans ain't going to be reappointed - so now we're just marking time.


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To be clear - I didn't say Link put Cooper up to this, but in the past Quade has consulted him on such issues. Maybe not this time?
 

Ignoto

Greg Davis (50)
Plenty, but you may want to hit the ignore function on a few posters, their knight in shining armour routine is getting very old.

In all fairness, if Tom Carter came out and said these things I'd support him.

Everyone seems to be stuck on the fact that Quade said it rather than what he said. Hypothetically speaking, if Sharpie came out after the team lands from the Argentina game and said the exact same things, would it change anyone's perspective?
 
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