2017 Schools Rowing

[IV The Win]

"With all the Shore Members on this page"

Is there something wrong with being from Shore now

I didn't say there was anything wrong with it, they're just awfully defensive about their pride and whatnot.

 

[RowingAcademy]

Lacking confidence in anything you do is detrimental to any athlete. It is the sheer confidence in the racing that Shore has that most definitely led them over the line. Look at athletes such as Floyd Mayweather, Jameis Winston, Dalvin Cook, Michael Hooper, Hamish Bond & Eric Murry whom are confident in every they do. They do not second guess themselves or hesitate... They go at 100%. It is something well coached into the Shore crew from the early stages.
Rowing past the crew, you can feel their presence. You can hear the coxswain's confidence in the boys around him.

 

[IV The Win]

Riverviews 40+ year drought getting to you? That's alright, just don't take it out on the boys who put everything into the sport, take your opinions elsewhere, they aren't warranted on this forum and certainly aren't valid.

Who ever said I'm a Riverview supporter? I'm just providing an unpopular opinion. Also if Shore are the people who put everything into the sport, what happened in 2015? I'm pretty sure one member only put in 95% or so. The whole point of a forum is to provide opinions, and I accept your elitism as being part of the Shore nature. Shore supporters are a large part of this forum, but the whole point of it is diversity in opinion. Just because my opinion is unpopular does not mean it warrants dismissal. How's your footy team doing Shore? Just my 2 cents

 

[RowingAcademy]

Who ever said I'm a Riverview supporter? I'm just providing an unpopular opinion. Also if Shore are the people who put everything into the sport, what happened in 2015? I'm pretty sure one member only put in 95% or so. The whole point of a forum is to provide opinions, and I accept your elitism as being part of the Shore nature. Shore supporters are a large part of this forum, but the whole point of it is diversity in opinion. Just because my opinion is unpopular does not mean it warrants dismissal. How's your footy team doing Shore? Just my 2 cents

IV the Win, your childish nature strikes me. As an ex St Josephs rower I find find it disrespectful in the manor in which you refer to Shore. There is a well established mutual level of respect forged between the boys on the racecourse through the season. For you to belittle another school after one of the most successful seasons in history reflects your immaturity as a man and an athlete.

 

[LuvToRo]

Who ever said I'm a Riverview supporter? I'm just providing an unpopular opinion. Also if Shore are the people who put everything into the sport, what happened in 2015? I'm pretty sure one member only put in 95% or so. The whole point of a forum is to provide opinions, and I accept your elitism as being part of the Shore nature. Shore supporters are a large part of this forum, but the whole point of it is diversity in opinion. Just because my opinion is unpopular does not mean it warrants dismissal. How's your footy team doing Shore? Just my 2 cents

Firstly i agree that you are allowed to have an opinion but when you make your opinion open and public be prepared to cop some criticism and for people to disagree with you.

Secondly your being degrading yourself by mentioning the term "elitism" and by also saying "Im pretty sure one member only put in 95% or so", The reference to Rugby was also unnecessary, don't turn this into an argument or a forum about rugby that is what the GPS rugby forum is for.

Discussion and Argument are what this forum is for.

 

[IV The Win]

IV the Win, your childish nature strikes me. As an ex St Josephs rower I find find it disrespectful in the manor in which you refer to Shore. There is a well established mutual level of respect forged between the boys on the racecourse through the season. For you to belittle another school after one of the most successful seasons in history reflects your immaturity as a man and an athlete.

Manner*

 

[Leg Drive]

Back on the subject of Kings i found this video recently, not sure if any of you have seen it.

Great video from Kings. Up there with Melbourne Grammar's from 2014 IMO

 

[Leg Drive]

In my opinion, this season will be a much closer season. View, Kings and New all building their cultures with new leadership and looking promising. And with Joeys and Scots always solid, I think there is going to be 5 hungry crews nipping at the Shore crew. Grammar and High are always pushing the rest too which is great.
Whoever wants it are going to have to have done the work in the winter. 6 months is not enough time to build the fitness base to win races. If it was, olympians wouldn't train for 4 years.
Also will be nice to see the SRC 8+ row at Henley this week with a crew of mainly ex-GPS boys.

 

[bigmac]

"Kings: I can't see Kings getting near the podium with a lack of a good program and the inconvenience of having their campus in Parramatta."

Whilst the consistency of the Kings crews last year, namely the Second VIII comes under question I don't believe we can rush to the conclusion that this is due to their program. A rowing program can be flawless but at the end of the day if the size and build of the boys isn't there its very unlikely for a crew to reap a win - even if they are to row with their hearts.

Now to the Kings rowing program. We can't rush to conclude that a program is a failure based on a few years of results. The 1st VIII coach is relatively new to the position (I believe he coached the winning 1st JNR VIII at HOTR 2014). 2 years at the helm does not constitute success of failure, 2 years is simply one generation of GPS rowers, and as I've already stated build is closely linked to success. Hence having one generation of GPS rowers who could possibly not have the mass necessary to row at this level could be a reason for the last two years results.

We also have to assess the strategic vision of the Kings rowing program. Every program is different and maybe Kings is aiming their program at building depth within the shed to become a strong competitor over the next few years.

Looking at the results of through the JNR VIII's this year supports this theory that the quality of Kings rowing is steadily growing.

The main point of my message is that we should not rush to demeaning conclusions in a public forum. Conclusions that lack insight and respect. Whilst rowing programs can remain a contentious issue 'we' are not personally rowing in the seats of the boys therefore we are unable to make deductions in regards to the quality of the coaching and program. Further, the AAGPS rowing tradition is rich thus a school would be unlikely to endeavour with a "lack of a good rowing program". The first race of the season is fast approaching and I know boys from the GPS schools are endeavouring with winter training.

Some good insights here hard 10. Are you currently coaching rowing or otherwise involved?

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[SBrow]

I would be interested to know what impact the Kings rugby tour had on their on their rowing in 2016? I believe they take a large rugby squad to the UK each year (or every 2nd year). I understand a number of rowers went on the tour. While a lot of the other rowing programs had boys rowing through the summer holidays, Kings had some of its 1st and 2nd VIII on rugby tour. Is this correct? If so, it would be fair to assume it would not have helped their rowing performance.

I heard two rowers (including the Captain of Boats) who went on tour were dropped from the firsts to the seconds, and one went up.
A month of Rugby and 'recreation' probably isn't the best for Rowing

 

[LuvToRo]

I would be interested to know what impact the Kings rugby tour had on their on their rowing in 2016? I believe they take a large rugby squad to the UK each year (or every 2nd year). I understand a number of rowers went on the tour. While a lot of the other rowing programs had boys rowing through the summer holidays, Kings had some of its 1st and 2nd VIII on rugby tour. Is this correct? If so, it would be fair to assume it would not have helped their rowing performance.

I was under the impression that the Kings 1st and 2nd VIII went to Jindabyne on tour during the summer holidays. At what point of the season do they head to the UK

 

[formerflanker]

I was under the impression that the Kings 1st and 2nd VIII went to Jindabyne on tour during the summer holidays. At what point of the season do they head to the UK

I don't know the answer but what a Christmas holiday break for some - a rowing camp and a rugby tour of the UK.
Busy times for the students. Hands into pockets for the parents.

 

[LuvToRo]

https://www.myminiauction.com/supportthecrew

Interesting auction prize to follow the 1st VIII race at Head of the River next year with a current bid of $650

 

[Hard 10]

Some good insights here hard 10. Are you currently coaching rowing or otherwise involved?

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My affiliations do not directly concern AAGPS rowing at this moment....

 

[L.Hudsen]

Yes but how many schools have convincing wins throughout the whole season, and let arrogance creep into their racing and only win by 2 seconds? Not many I'd presume. If that happened then, what's to stop the arrogant nature that Shore likely carries into the next season affecting their racing enough for something like this to happen again. Just my 2 cents.

You have a good point. However from the Shore supporters I sat next to on the day I found out the stern pair where quite sick and raced anyways to insure a chance at 6/6. The stroke with pneumonia and the 7 seat with tonsillitis. If this is true I believe your comments are rendered obsolete.

 

[IV The Win]

You have a good point. However from the Shore supporters I sat next to on the day I found out the stern pair where quite sick and raced anyways to insure a chance at 6/6. The stroke with pneumonia and the 7 seat with tonsillitis. If this is true I believe your comments are rendered obsolete.

Like I said, I was happy to be proven wrong. Complacency is not something I would like to see in the future. I'm guessing you were sitting near parents on the day, it seems like inside information if I'm only just hearing it. You could have also been part of the crew, but it's not my job to make accusations. However you seem to be offering conflicting information to what the RowingLord told me. The illness throughout the crew seems to be spreading, maybe the next person will inform me that the whole boat had gastro. Just my 2 cents

 

[IV The Win]

Perhaps you could overlook spelling and punctuation for the thread. Its all you seem to really do? We are ex rowers most of us, give us a break.
IV the win i would love to hear your affiliation to GPS rowing it has me very interested.

As a matter of fact, I am the elder brother of the 2016 Shore Bow seat

 

[Hard 10]

As a matter of fact, I am the elder brother of the 2016 Shore Bow seat

Being family friends with the SHORE 2016 Bow's family I am quite interested in this statement, especially as there in no "mysterious older brother" as the Bow of the VIII is the eldest child. Further one would question your knowledge and insights of complacency. Surely if you were the older brother, which you are clearly not because it doesn't exist you would know the ins and outs of Shore rowing far more carefully. Maybe you could share a program with us?

The Mystery Son award goes to 'IV for the win'!

 

[Hard 10]

I find this very interesting as well Hard 10, as i recall first seeing IV the win post in last years forum confirming the injury of one of the Riverview men before HOTR. He also looked to have favoured view. This was on top of alluding to Shore losing its only race to a GPS crew (Scots) in a heat when the Shore's 6 seats seat came off. Now what kind of brother would be so favoured to another GPS school as well as ridicule the school i would presume he would have went to? Perhaps jealousy of a younger brothers success, but then again as Hard 10 pointed out, which shocks me, how can you be the older brother if he apparently doesn't have one; as hard 10 pointed out? This seems to have put the nail in the coffin for legitimacy as well as in validity to do with your comments on this forum.

That is of course.... if ..... This mystery brother has been locked up for the numerous holidays we have been on together. Perhaps he is the failure of the family hence clearly fuelling his jealously and disloyalty to his brother. IV for the win, I myself do not support identity theft - you are clearly cyber bullying and defaming the reputation of the Bow of the Shore 1st VIII (which holds hefty legal fines). I will be getting in contact with his family over this issue. Could you please leave this forum? Or. Actually contribute 2 cents that is valid and not absolute crap. Kind Regards, Hard 10

 

[Geoff Geoff]

Being family friends with the SHORE 2016 Bow's family I am quite interested in this statement, especially as there in no "mysterious older brother" as the Bow of the VIII is the eldest child. Further one would question your knowledge and insights of complacency. Surely if you were the older brother, which you are clearly not because it doesn't exist you would know the ins and outs of Shore rowing far more carefully. Maybe you could share a program with us?

The Mystery Son award goes to 'IV for the win'!

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