2017 Schools Rowing

[Hard 10]

Surely weight and a higher than normal stroke weight would be more important than height in a headwind ? Height is often overestimated and does not necessarily translate into stroke length as the tallest rowers can have tight hamstring and row short strokes. However granted they have more potential but at GPS level does it necessarily equal boat speed ?

To an extent I do agree, but if we are taking a look at the heights of the past five years winners at the AAGPS HOTR regatta there is a clear positive correlation between height and the time taken to win the race.

 

[Hard 10]

Surely weight and a higher than normal stroke weight would be more important than height in a headwind ? Height is often overestimated and does not necessarily translate into stroke length as the tallest rowers can have tight hamstring and row short strokes. However granted they have more potential but at GPS level does it necessarily equal boat speed ?

L Hudsen, If you wouldn't mind I would like to hear about your personal rowing background?

 

[L.Hudsen]

To an extent I do agree, but if we are taking a look at the heights of the past five years winners at the AAGPS HOTR regatta there is a clear positive correlation between height and the time taken to win the race.

I would be interested to see you graph this correlation and perhaps include the winning time of each year.

 

[Hard 10]

I would be interested to see you graph this correlation and perhaps include the winning time of each year.

Would I be correct in guessing your affiliation to St Josephs college?

 

[RowingAcademy]

What are everyone's thoughts on the results regarding the boat heading to Rotterdam later this year for the World Juniors. I do have my doubts about the IV consisting of three ex St Josephs and one Sydney Grammer rower. The crew not even making Australian qualifying time. Not expecting any big results...

 

[bigmac]

What are everyone's thoughts on the results regarding the boat heading to Rotterdam later this year for the World Juniors. I do have my doubts about the IV consisting of three ex St Josephs and one Sydney Grammer rower. The crew not even making Australian qualifying time. Not expecting any big results.

Wish them all the best but its a tough gig out there taking on the world's best.

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[SBrow]

Scots had about 20 scullers rowing out of Sydney Rowing Club this morning, as per the last few weekends. No one seems to be rating them for next year but they are going to a lot of effort.

How do you know they were scots?

 

[SBrow]

What are everyone's thoughts on the results regarding the boat heading to Rotterdam later this year for the World Juniors. I do have my doubts about the IV consisting of three ex St Josephs and one Sydney Grammer rower. The crew not even making Australian qualifying time. Not expecting any big results.

The four look very tidy from what i've seen, and are all good rowers themselves, they qualified as a 4- I believe, but didnt make the time when rowing as a 4+, perhaps they were put here as it is a less competitive boat class?
I have no doubt the quad will do well, the video posted by Sydney Rowing Club is impressive, and are all very talented rowers

 

[behindtheshed]

What are everyone's thoughts on the results regarding the boat heading to Rotterdam later this year for the World Juniors. I do have my doubts about the IV consisting of three ex St Josephs and one Sydney Grammer rower. The crew not even making Australian qualifying time. Not expecting any big results.

Can you link us the times? so that any discussion is informed discussion. My understanding is that most of the crew is still in year 12. For comparison, I'd also like to see the times for equivalent crews which have qualified in other countries

 

[behindtheshed]

How do you know they were scots?

They weren't. They were from a club I believe and possibly all go to the same school but it's not KT's academy for kids who can't row good and wanna do other stuff good too.

 

[behindtheshed]

Umm, the boys were all wearing Scots gear, rowing out of SRC and not the Scots shed.

So you were there and personally saw the lions which differentiate them from, say, all the SBHS rowers from SRC who are doing JB Sharp?

 

[behindtheshed]

they qualified as a 4- I believe, but didnt make the time when rowing as a 4+, perhaps they were put here as it is a less competitive boat class?

Seems unlikely that they qualified at 6.03 without a cox but then didn't manage 6.20 with a cox?

I became intrigued by this and went back a ways to find results for this elusive and apparently controversial crew. At reindeer regatta they pulled a 6.38 but by SIRR they had shaved off 16 seconds to win in 6.22. Seems they were pretty close to the qualifying time and may have been invited to continue with training camp and Trial #2 to see if the improvement continues?

 

[behindtheshed]

You have shown the U23 times. The junior targets are on the RA website. The boys tried as a coxless four first and werent fast enough and then tried as a coxed four and did 6:31, while the standard was 6:30. The selectors 'adjusted' the time down one second for a slight head and they were selected. The quad initially weren't selected as they werent deemed fast enough even though they did 6:04 at the trials when the standard was 6:05. They appealled and were then selected. The times and results arent posted anywhere unfortunately.
For difference in qualifying times for the coxed and coxless events was 19 seconds, meaning that the coxless event was relatively faster as a cox would make about 9-10 seconds difference.

That's high quality info for this thread! and yes, I had wrongly assumed U23 times. So only one second the difference - how come other crews selected haven't received this much attention?

 

[RowingAcademy]

Yes, the Scots and SBHS boys trained in different groups with different coaches, with the Scots boys in distinct Scots clothing. It would be interesting to quantify how many GPS rowers are training out of the various clubs at the moment. For instance, I hear there are a number of Shore rowers (10+) training out of Mosman.

That's interesting to hear, seeing Shore's close affiliation with SRC over the winter. I'm sure JB would be guttered to hear this news. I do question the standard of quality coached at Mosman in comparison to SRC. However, at least the preparation is 'ramping up' as we veer closer to another GPS season.

Great to see St Joseph's crush Riverview's ambitions last weekend. Let's hope they continue this into the summer season.

 

[SBrow]

You have shown the U23 times. The junior targets are on the RA website. The boys tried as a coxless four first and werent fast enough and then tried as a coxed four and did 6:31, while the standard was 6:30. The selectors 'adjusted' the time down one second for a slight head and they were selected. The quad initially weren't selected as they werent deemed fast enough even though they did 6:04 at the trials when the standard was 6:05. They appealled and were then selected. The times and results arent posted anywhere unfortunately.
For difference in qualifying times for the coxed and coxless events was 19 seconds, meaning that the coxless event was relatively faster as a cox would make about 9-10 seconds difference.

I think the pdf files of the junior/u21/u23 times were posted on the rowing victoria website if you look for it. There might be a link on last years thread - I think that's where i got it from

 

[Geoff Geoff]

I do question the standard of quality coached at Mosman in comparison to SRC. .

Big claim!

probably would be good to remove the ambiguity...

Are you questioning the quality of rowers coached at Mosman or the coaches quality at Mosman?

 

[SBrow]

Lets face it though, SRC is a landslide ahead of other clubs in terms of its nationals results (although they do make a ridiculous number of entries)

 

[Hard 10]

Hi Guys,
Driving past the end of Hen and Chicken today and witnessed a crew 'possibly Scots' doing taps. Almost rear ended a car looking at this. Any other news from around Sydney?

 

[SBrow]

Hi Guys,
Driving past the end of Hen and Chicken today and witnessed a crew 'possibly Scots' doing taps. Almost rear ended a car looking at this. Any other news from around Sydney?

Happens every year on this forum because scots are the only school with empachers, it would be Sydney Rowing Club, thames challenge cup for Henley next week.
They do have a number of ex-gps rowers however

 

[SBrow]

] Any other news from around Sydney?

Newington did fairly well in the singles in the Glebe JB Sharp races - results on rowingnsw