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David Wilson (68)
Volavola wasn't a foreign no 10 when he was playing for Waratahs. He took the Fiji option when he couldn't get a super contract here.
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Volavola wasn't a foreign no 10 when he was playing for Waratahs. He took the Fiji option when he couldn't get a super contract here.
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Nicholas Shehadie (39)
Yep your correct.
Doesn't change the fact he's an international 10 playing for Australia.
He'll never be eligible for the Wallabies just like Grant, Gardon-Bachop or Hawera and their presence is slowing down Aus 10 growth.
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David Wilson (68)
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David Wilson (68)
True, had any of the 5 Aussie franchises shown interest at the end of 2015 he'd still be in line to play for the Wallabies.
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
jimmydubs
Dave Cowper (27)
Coincidence that's the last time a lot of people say they played well? Thing is they weren't that flash then and shouldve lost to Scotland.
I don't think fitness is the biggest issue the team has.
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Larkham also had a wallaby inelegible half back as his first choice scrum half until injury in pre-season. It was stated earlier this season how ludicrous it was that the wallaby attack coach had a wallaby inelegible halves combo..
And it can't be from lack of options, Powell has stood up and performed well in the absence of Cubelli.. so how many other Powells are there in Australia, young flyhalves just waiting to be offered the opportunity..
Australias lack of depth at blindside is a result of years of having foreign blindsides in Australia, even in 2017 I believe we have 3 wallaby inelegible blindside flankers/no.8 in Australian squads, but it was worse in 2015-2016
And it can't be from lack of options, Powell has stood up and performed well in the absence of Cubelli.. so how many other Powells are there in Australia, young flyhalves just waiting to be offered the opportunity..
Australias lack of depth at blindside is a result of years of having foreign blindsides in Australia, even in 2017 I believe we have 3 wallaby inelegible blindside flankers/no.8 in Australian squads, but it was worse in 2015-2016
Micheal
Nicholas Shehadie (39)
Weren't flash?
+ Decent performance against Fij in the hardest pool in the RWC.
+ Awesome win against England at their home RWC.
+ Awesome win against Wales.
+ Awesome win against Argentina.
+ Stuttering win against Scotland.
+ Admirable performance against ABs given injuries.
In the lead up:
+ Beat the All Blacks and won the RC.
Let's not rewrite history. 2015 was a pretty good year to be a Wallabies fan.
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Dave Cowper (27)
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
We also had a pretty strong group of players, and off the back of two of our Soup teams being among the top four in the comp over a few years (and not that long after the Reds' success too)..........
In fact the 15 team era of Super Rugby was good for Australian teams overall.........
Unfortunately we haven't evolved.
Quick Hands
David Wilson (68)
The line doesn't seem so long to me. There seems only to be two people in it at the moment.
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Mark Ella (57)
Well, I knew at least one person would take my comment this way.
I have no problem people being critical of Cheika, and have been myself - but he does have a comparatively successful record as a coach at super & European levels, he did take us to a World Cup final which I think most would agree was above expectations and he has demonstrated several times he is willing to wear short term pain for long term gain. Also, a lot of his public comments do suggest he is not in denial about the performance of the team and the job in front of them.
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
I'm sure that in that hypothetical scenario accommodations would be made to increase the line.............
And he still shouldn't have got a Super contract
Ignoto
Greg Davis (50)
I can't say I buy into making the argument that having an international player in X position is as big of a problem as everyone makes it out to be. Other than the fact that if an international player is the best option for a team in that position and actually helps those around him perform better than surely that's a positive sign right?
The danger you run of simply saying not international players is, you could have 5-10 Jake McIntyre's running the show around the nation (I don't want to put the guy down, but I'm trying to illustrate that the quality may suffer).
You know what hurt the most in the play maker department? Losing both To'omua AND Lelifano in one year. If we had one those players we wouldn't be having this discussion. The ARU and Brumbies spent almost a decade developing those guys and one left to do what most 20 something year olds do, and the other had a rough hand dealt to him.
The danger you run of simply saying not international players is, you could have 5-10 Jake McIntyre's running the show around the nation (I don't want to put the guy down, but I'm trying to illustrate that the quality may suffer).
You know what hurt the most in the play maker department? Losing both To'omua AND Lelifano in one year. If we had one those players we wouldn't be having this discussion. The ARU and Brumbies spent almost a decade developing those guys and one left to do what most 20 something year olds do, and the other had a rough hand dealt to him.
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David Wilson (68)
Not even ahead of the 4 foreign 10s that you were complaining about?
Nup, he was one of the 4
It doesn't help any team to have some average unit taking up roster space, it isn't like Dan Carter is running round as the import. McIntyre is as good, if not better than the foreign units we have rolling out.
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David Wilson (68)
I don't think it will happen, but couldn't either of Garden-Bachop or Hawera be Wallaby eligible after playing here the requisite time? If they choose to do so, of course.
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