Bokke v Wallabies version III

[cyclopath]

Well, 7 tries - that's me for the night.

Moore and Smith on - good things start to happen. We're not good enough to be rotating. Especially with duds like Waugh and Polota-No.

: Turn it up you clown - Moore has been useless since he came on. Smith has looked great - but then so would Waugh in this exact same situation as we've proved again and again this season when one replaces the other. If Smith had started with the other soft shites like Palu out there at the moment he'd still look swamped.

I'm starting to think a few of our boys put some rand down on this game - the way Moore finally got a throw straight and no-one jumped beggars belief...

You truly are as clueless as Tim Horan's commentary. Moore has been a revelation since he's come on, has settled the set piece work and been everywhere in general play.

Your man love for Waugh has moved into the sad zone. Waugh is good for about 10 minutes of rugby after Smith has owned all and sundry. Up against a non-specialist openside that Smith destroyed, Waugh gave us ZERO.

Cannot forgive the sheer lack of intensity, skill and enthusiasm. Heads must roll.

I particularly like the way he threw all those lineout throws to the Bokke, then hung out in midfield to fill the gap Sharpe vacated. You may notice this if you watch the coverage.
Otherwise, kind of agree with you.

 

[naza]

Don't you ever get tired of acting like an idiot? Moore has been as useless as the rest of our forwards when it comes to commitment and ticker.

As for the Smith/Waugh debate - go back and look at all our early Tests this year. Whomever starts looks good but not great, then the replacement comes on and blitzes it. The only game this didn't happen in was against the Kiwis where Smith was magnificent in the absence of any real opposition i.e. McCaw.

Firstly, I'm stunned that such an obnoxious arrogant prick as yourself 1/ is a mod 2/ managed to last as long as you did on the Silverfern. No wonder the Renegades don't give you any minutes.

Secondly, you are the only person on the planet that thinks Waugh is remotely within the rare air than George Smith inhabits. Smith has been great in all the games he's played this year, regardless of opposition. Its why he's the most capped flanker in test rugby. Waugh is just tokenism GPS old boys network at its worst.

Thirdly, Waugh was garbage in this match. Sure, there were a lot of duds but he stunk up the joint something horrid. Up against a 112kg guy who is no flyer, he was consistently beaten and offered us bugger all.

Fourth, Moore was sensational. The try we laid on there ? Take a look - Moore was the man who made it happen. Not starting with Moore was asking for trouble. He is our best tight forward and has led the way all year. Why can't you credit the bloke ?

 

[Pfitzy]

I give him credit when he's playing well. I don't tonight, because he didn't. Simple.

You're on a warning for personal abuse, I might add.

Secondly, you are the only person on the planet that thinks Waugh is remotely within the rare air than George Smith inhabits.

Yep, just me and the entire coaching hierarchy of Australian Rugby :nta:

 

[cyclopath]

Settle down Naza, no need for the name calling mate.
You make valid points - I would have started with Moore too. I disagree that this was one of his finer performances however. The die was cast before he came on though.

 

[PaarlBok]

OK while you lot sort this out I'll enjoy my charge office coffees. Myself the lonely ranger that back Snors gameplan of running rugby. That was the best performance at home and hope those Snor haters start to enjoy great running rugby. Nokwe 4 tries and the biggest winning margin against Aus. Mooi Bokke!

 

[naza]

Well, 7 tries - that's me for the night.

Moore and Smith on - good things start to happen. We're not good enough to be rotating. Especially with duds like Waugh and Polota-No.

: Turn it up you clown - Moore has been useless since he came on. Smith has looked great - but then so would Waugh in this exact same situation as we've proved again and again this season when one replaces the other. If Smith had started with the other soft shites like Palu out there at the moment he'd still look swamped.

I'm starting to think a few of our boys put some rand down on this game - the way Moore finally got a throw straight and no-one jumped beggars belief...

You truly are as clueless as Tim Horan's commentary. Moore has been a revelation since he's come on, has settled the set piece work and been everywhere in general play.

Your man love for Waugh has moved into the sad zone. Waugh is good for about 10 minutes of rugby after Smith has owned all and sundry. Up against a non-specialist openside that Smith destroyed, Waugh gave us ZERO.

Cannot forgive the sheer lack of intensity, skill and enthusiasm. Heads must roll.

I particularly like the way he threw all those lineout throws to the Bokke, then hung out in midfield to fill the gap Sharpe vacated. You may notice this if you watch the coverage.
Otherwise, kind of agree with you.

No, you're right. In fact we lost the whole game cause of Moore. :

This just proves again that the SIW brigade cannot admit when they are wrong. Why has nobody criticised Nau ? He was a disaster, yet again. Oh, and I notice Elsom escapes criticism for another horrendous performance (AGAIN !). Sure, it took a while for Moore to restore some order amonst the chaos but he gave it a red hot go. Bringing on the whole bench couldn't stop the rot - the Boks simply were on a roll and nobody could stop their momentum at that point. Moore starting has delivered the goods.

 

[naza]

Settle down Naza, no need for the name calling mate.
You make valid points - I would have started with Moore too. I disagree that this was one of his finer performances however. The die was cast before he came on though.

Who is name calling ? That'd be the moderator NTA. I'm not going to put up with that crap.

Moore showed pluck, intensity and skill - still waiting for you lot to agree that Nau has never showed at test level what Moore has....

 

[cyclopath]

OK while you lot sort this out I'll enjoy my charge office coffees. Myself the lonely ranger that back Snors gameplan of running rugby. That was the best performance at home and hope those Snor haters start to enjoy great running rugby. Nokwe 4 tries and the biggest winning margin against Aus. Mooi Bokke!

Enjoy, PB, hopefully this place doesn't degenerate into anarchy in the aftermath!
Just quietly, that style of rugby looks great when it works, as it did today. I wouldn't back it week in week out - a team perfoming half decently against you may cause some problems with a loose style like that. But when all the passes stick, and bounces go right - you have tonight. Shout yourself something stronger than a coffee, you deserve it!

 

[naza]

OK while you lot sort this out I'll enjoy my charge office coffees. Myself the lonely ranger that back Snors gameplan of running rugby. That was the best performance at home and hope those Snor haters start to enjoy great running rugby. Nokwe 4 tries and the biggest winning margin against Aus. Mooi Bokke!

Just a bit of a turnaround ! Good work by the Bokke. I have a hard time believing a team with James at flyhalf can put on a half century and that many tries. The Boks didn't necessarily do anything new - offloading is their game. Good to see.

 

[Pfitzy]

You are the only one doing the name calling naz - can't you even see that? You're still on a warning.


Well done to your boys Oom - very satisfying no doubt to see the real Boks stand up and play with some heart and guts.

I think, looking back at the nightmare, that this victory had little to do with running rugby or Peter dV in fact. The Boks actually played they way they should - get into the right places to attack. Wait for your opportunities. Most of their tries came from within our half or off direct mistakes from us in our own half. Take the forward pack and use their aggression to keep the opposition busy, and get it to the lightning wingers on the outside.

Kicking to Tuqiri was also part of the move by the looks but, in a shock, Tuqiri actually kicked well. It was just everything else he was involved in that was shit.

 

[PaarlBok]

Firstly, I'm stunned that such an obnoxious arrogant prick as yourself 1/ is a mod 2/ managed to last as long as you did on the Silverfern. No wonder the Renegades don't give you any minutes.

Naza your a vokken joke Boet!

 

[cyclopath]

Naza, I did not say we lost it because of Moore, if you read my posts it is pretty clear. I mentioned at half-time who I thought should start at 2 was clear. Guess you didn't read that either. I am not a fan of TPN, and have made that clear in many posts. Don't lump me in as part of "you lot". There are plenty of opinions here, and plenty that differ, so get off it mate.
I actually agree with some of your points, but I'll think twice before crediting you with much after this if you keep up the paranoid rubbish.

 

[Grandmaster Flash]

Well that hurt.

At half time I thought the rot may stop and they could stem the flow of tides, but I think deep down I really knew a thrashing was on its way...

Ugh, where now to from here? Will we stand a chance at Lang Park?

 

[Pfitzy]

Two weeks of wearing that millstone probably won't help Flash, but let's hope we go back to the First XV and yes for naza's benefit, that includes Smith and Moore.

What I had real trouble with tonight was our scrum getting nutted that badly with Horwill at THP... All the wheels happened on Dunning's side where Beast was hammering him. Baxter slowed it down a bit and got some stability in there but it was still pretty shocking after the previous week. Gotta say that Mujati stood up this week too - starting the game probably made it easier for him to get into rhythm.

 

[naza]

You are the only one doing the name calling naz - can't you even see that? You're still on a warning.

What warning ? This is news to me.

Oh, pulling the mod card I see...you're as precious as the Silverfern mob. Look at the posts - you started it with the 'clown' comment. SOP for yourself though. You have been a bit testy ever since I trounced you in the 'most knowledgeable rugby poster' poll though...

 

[Pfitzy]

I asked if you were sick of acting like an idiot - I don't actually believe some of your comments are your real opinion and you put them there for debate's sake. To turn around and call me an arrogant obnoxious prick and then drag my playing history into it is what some might refer to as personal. There is a difference.

Yes I am pulling the mod card. But I gave you two warnings so I'll consider it settled.

 

[Pfitzy]

And big ups to Jury for doing two live commentaries :thumb

 

[naza]

I asked if you were sick of acting like an idiot - I don't actually believe some of your comments are your real opinion and you put them there for debate's sake

They are my real opinion. I'm annoyed that having a different view of things on here is considered trolling - I think I add a lot to the forum by having a different view of things and am getting a bit tired of the hostility. Especially when I am consistently proven right - a la Palu, Moore, Burgess.

 

[Pfitzy]

Well then, I can't stop you acting like an idiot if its your real opinion then, can I? 8)

 

[naza]

Well then, I can't stop you acting like an idiot if its your real opinion then, can I? 8)

Scarfman...time to sack NTA, the biggest troll on this forum.