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David Codey (61)
Well, if you didn't understand his value add last year,of course you would be surprised that he excelled at this level.
You would be wrong as well........
Brumbies 2015
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You would be wrong as well........
I'm doing this from memory BR
1. Allan A
2. S. Siliva
3. L. Makin
4/5 B. Enever
4/5 T. Staniforth
6. ?
7. S. Doyle
8. I. Vaea
9. M. Dowsett.
10. R. Iona
11. Taliauli ??
12. H. Hutchison
13. A. Robinson
14. ??
15. Ah Wong
Reserves included
JP and R Smith, J. Powell - can't remember any others.
Auluea and Mogg did not play.
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Brumby Runner
David Wilson (68)
And FTS
Doyle had a cracker apparently. I believe Ala'alatoa played, as well as most of the bench players from the night before.
Un-contracted players that played off the top of my head included twins Dean and Michael Oakman-Hunt, Henry Hutchinson, Andrew Robinson, Jerome Nuimata, Joe Powell, Tim Cornforth, Ratu Tagive. Rowan Perry is recovering from a shoulder reconstruction.
Thanks to both of you.
Is Andrew Robinson the winger who played for the Aus Schoolboys alongside Tom Staniforth a couple of years ago when they beat the NZ Schoolboys? If so, Hutchinson/Robinson would have been a very young but speedy centre partnership.
Tim Cornforth seems to have been around forever, but he was looking good in the ITM last time I saw him play.
I presume Doyle will come into the Brumbies' squad for the Chiefs game in place of Poey.
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Stan Wickham (3)
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Ken Catchpole (46)
Pocock is injured again
David Pocock will miss Friday’s game with the Chiefs through injury.
David Pocock will not be available for selection this Friday after receiving a grade-one syndesmosis to his ankle during Friday’s win over the Reds in Canberra.
Pocock did not train with the main squad on Monday. He said it was now a matter of getting his ankle right for a quick return to the field.
“Obviously it’s a disappointing outcome and not what I wanted, having spent a long time out. But it’s treatable and I know I’m in good hands here with the Brumbies medical team,” Pocock said.
Head Coach Stephen Larkham said it was disappointing for Pocock but he expected him back at full fitness soon.
“It’s definitely a blow for Dave, having worked so hard to get back to full fitness and then to have played as well as he did on Friday,” Larkham said.
“But it’s a long season, this is contact sport and these sorts of injuries are quite common. It’s in no way related to his knee and we are going to approach it week by week to see when he’s ok to play again.
“Dave has been positive about this set back and while he’d rather be on the flight to New Zealand with the team than rehabbing in a moonboot, we are optimistic he’ll be back soon.”
Pocock’s ankle will be assessed each week until he is ready to return to playing with the Aquis Brumbies.
http://www.brumbies.com.au/News/Art...esmosis-rules-Pocock-out-of-Chiefs-clash.aspx
David Pocock will miss Friday’s game with the Chiefs through injury.
David Pocock will not be available for selection this Friday after receiving a grade-one syndesmosis to his ankle during Friday’s win over the Reds in Canberra.
Pocock did not train with the main squad on Monday. He said it was now a matter of getting his ankle right for a quick return to the field.
“Obviously it’s a disappointing outcome and not what I wanted, having spent a long time out. But it’s treatable and I know I’m in good hands here with the Brumbies medical team,” Pocock said.
Head Coach Stephen Larkham said it was disappointing for Pocock but he expected him back at full fitness soon.
“It’s definitely a blow for Dave, having worked so hard to get back to full fitness and then to have played as well as he did on Friday,” Larkham said.
“But it’s a long season, this is contact sport and these sorts of injuries are quite common. It’s in no way related to his knee and we are going to approach it week by week to see when he’s ok to play again.
“Dave has been positive about this set back and while he’d rather be on the flight to New Zealand with the team than rehabbing in a moonboot, we are optimistic he’ll be back soon.”
Pocock’s ankle will be assessed each week until he is ready to return to playing with the Aquis Brumbies.
http://www.brumbies.com.au/News/Art...esmosis-rules-Pocock-out-of-Chiefs-clash.aspx
Doyle played like a mad dog as he usually does. He had better curb that if he moves up. He even rubbed the face of his Southern Districts' clubmate, Ben V, into the ground when Ben was forced out - and yeah, I have witnesses. He hasn't got any better looking since he got back from overseas either.
Allan played well but his brother Mike played well for the Tahs A team also. I took a photo of them packing down in a scrum - directly opposing each other, of course. I hope it turns out OK.
Yes Andrew played for Oz Schools on the wing but he was really an outside centre then, and still is.
Andrew is quick enough but he couldn't get near the time that HH had at the GPS track meet in 2014 when he recorded 10.79 secs for 100 metres.
Andrew is older - he turns 21 in June; Henry turned 18 last Thursday.
Henry is not very big but he will be a star player.
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What club has Henry Hutchison been assigned to for the John 1 Dent Cup?
They haven't done those yet, as far as I know.
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David Wilson (68)
Thanks Lee. Maybe Butler back to 7 then and Ita Vaea to play a full game. Not sure if that's on the cards just yet.
Both Ala'alatoas show a lot of promise, probably Mike as the elder a bit in front of Alan atm.
I remember Andrew Robinson being a standout on that tour along with Jonah Placid. Both were instrumental in getting the win over NZ.
Ita is still over-weight and not ready for near a full game. If he is on the bench and someone gets injured early he would struggle.
I reckon that the younger and lighter Allan, a THP, will be the star of the family; though Mike had the best game I ever saw him play on Saturday.
I don't know that Andrew will have the class to crack a spot in the Brumbies starting team in a few years' time but I can't warrant that he won't either.
Placid, who is at the Rebels, has more promise but he is brittle.
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I reckon that the younger and lighter Allan, a THP, will be the star of the family; though Mike had the best game I ever saw him play on Saturday.
I don't know that Andrew will have the class to crack a spot in the Brumbies starting team in a few years' time but I can't warrant that he won't either.
Placid, who is at the Rebels, has more promise but he is brittle.
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David Codey (61)
There are some quality people attached to the Brumbies franchise,here's an article from Rathbone.
I am a big fan.
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/u...-than-his-onfield-skills-20150217-13goa7.html
I am a big fan.
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-union/u...-than-his-onfield-skills-20150217-13goa7.html
nathan
Darby Loudon (17)
Maybe the irony in the timing of this article from Rath was intentional, but when it comes to ethics and sponsorship it's hard to argue there's much good in the new title sponsor.
Whether it's knocking down land to build a big casino right next to the barrier reef or helping feed the addiction of a problem gambler down at the old Canberra Casino... they've got you covered.
Make sure you hit the tables afterwards boys! Anybody that's been to Casino Canberra knows how much of a 'fun place' it is at 5.30pm on a Friday arvo.
Hans
Fred Wood (13)
Apologies for the delay in this post, have been out of town on work duties (thanks boss).
Made it out to TG Milner to watch the Brumby Runners play Gen Blue on Saturday afternoon. 4 key points from this game that essentially explain the result:
1. The ACT forwards particularly the 4,5,6,7 went forward, ALOT. These guys hit the advantage line at pace regularly and in numbers. They were largely the reason the ACT backs had so much punch up the middle of the park. In defence, they continued to go forward, with brutality the name of the game in stopping anything Gen Blue could get happening going forward. They shut down Holloway, Grey and Phillip with a scary amount of ease.
2. The ACT Scrum half was everywhere. constantly shut out the inside channel for the NSW flyhalf, and sent the ball wide, into their brick wall defence. One of the best and most energetic half back displays in a long while. I didn't notice his service to much but was blown away by the speed in defence and the urgency, right up until the 70th odd minute when he was replaced.
3. NSW were really slow and lethargic. Absolutely zero urgency from the NSW forwards to move forward or go in numbers. ACT were belting them in defence but doing it in numbers. NSW never changed their game plan, they basically threw it to Holloway and Roach to try and create go forward.
4. ACT gameplans never change. ACT have for years been masters of frustrating the opposition by suffocating a style of play, and it seems this is bread into them before they make the main squad. the number of times a yellow jumper was rolling under the feet of the half back as he was trying to pass the ball or lingering at the base of a ruck taking a mid afternoon kip while lying on the ball was ridiculous. It took until the 50th odd minute for a card to be shown, but it was amazing to watch the way ACT completely blew NSW off their game plan and to watch NSW disintegrate.
ACT won it hands down, urgency, physicality, angryness! everything was thumbs up for ACT. The half and the two locks were probably the best on ground, the 5 more so than the 4, and the 6 was into everything. For NSW not much to write home about. Holloway and Roach tried hard, Dempsey for me played far to wide, which helped ACT win the gang warfare in the middle, as NSW were essentially one forward short. The half was running out of breath badly and lagging, very little spark in attack save for a couple of late bursts from Kellaway and Clunies-Ross to save some face.
Bethams addition to the Tahs team is a real concern, as he had less than zero impact against the ACT backs, and had a tendency to do the twinkle toes dance heading into contact rather than putting the head down and running. AS coach, i certainly wouldn't be rewarding with a call up to the main squad after that display. McCutcheon tried hard, but was beaten out of it by a more enthused back row, his addition must be some sort of cover for Hooper, as Holloway would have been probably the pick of the NSW forwards.
Better luck next time for the NSW boys, they need a serious rocket in order to make it count from here on in!
Made it out to TG Milner to watch the Brumby Runners play Gen Blue on Saturday afternoon. 4 key points from this game that essentially explain the result:
1. The ACT forwards particularly the 4,5,6,7 went forward, ALOT. These guys hit the advantage line at pace regularly and in numbers. They were largely the reason the ACT backs had so much punch up the middle of the park. In defence, they continued to go forward, with brutality the name of the game in stopping anything Gen Blue could get happening going forward. They shut down Holloway, Grey and Phillip with a scary amount of ease.
2. The ACT Scrum half was everywhere. constantly shut out the inside channel for the NSW flyhalf, and sent the ball wide, into their brick wall defence. One of the best and most energetic half back displays in a long while. I didn't notice his service to much but was blown away by the speed in defence and the urgency, right up until the 70th odd minute when he was replaced.
3. NSW were really slow and lethargic. Absolutely zero urgency from the NSW forwards to move forward or go in numbers. ACT were belting them in defence but doing it in numbers. NSW never changed their game plan, they basically threw it to Holloway and Roach to try and create go forward.
4. ACT gameplans never change. ACT have for years been masters of frustrating the opposition by suffocating a style of play, and it seems this is bread into them before they make the main squad. the number of times a yellow jumper was rolling under the feet of the half back as he was trying to pass the ball or lingering at the base of a ruck taking a mid afternoon kip while lying on the ball was ridiculous. It took until the 50th odd minute for a card to be shown, but it was amazing to watch the way ACT completely blew NSW off their game plan and to watch NSW disintegrate.
ACT won it hands down, urgency, physicality, angryness! everything was thumbs up for ACT. The half and the two locks were probably the best on ground, the 5 more so than the 4, and the 6 was into everything. For NSW not much to write home about. Holloway and Roach tried hard, Dempsey for me played far to wide, which helped ACT win the gang warfare in the middle, as NSW were essentially one forward short. The half was running out of breath badly and lagging, very little spark in attack save for a couple of late bursts from Kellaway and Clunies-Ross to save some face.
Bethams addition to the Tahs team is a real concern, as he had less than zero impact against the ACT backs, and had a tendency to do the twinkle toes dance heading into contact rather than putting the head down and running. AS coach, i certainly wouldn't be rewarding with a call up to the main squad after that display. McCutcheon tried hard, but was beaten out of it by a more enthused back row, his addition must be some sort of cover for Hooper, as Holloway would have been probably the pick of the NSW forwards.
Better luck next time for the NSW boys, they need a serious rocket in order to make it count from here on in!
mst
Peter Johnson (47)
Ah, the hypocrisy and intellectual palsy about the Brumbies sponsor is astounding. A mere glance at the comments in the game threads will show the odds for each game being posted and discussed, yet we choose to conveniently target a company who provides hospitality and accommodation unlike the other “odd’s” providing companies, who is actually a sponsor of our game who is linked to gambling?
Potentially stuck in my own intellectual short comings and naive and simplistic understanding of things, but if someone can tell me the difference between watching a game in the night club area of Canberra casino, and any pub, club or venue with pokies I will happily listen to you split hairs about the difference in the gambling compared to gambling. When you have finished with that explanation, you can tackle the question of betting facilities, to gamble on sports at venues such as the actual grounds.
The choices of each individual will at times clash with the moral or ethical imperatives of a person and will force individual choice. As in Rathbone’s article, he eventually made a choice so as not to compromise a program that was for the benefit of other people. At the end of the day the debate about the ethics of sponsors is a slippery slope for all. Sponsors want something in return for their investment. Be it the pollution and additional traffic congestion from cars (Volvo), or the exploration of people financial resources for profit by banking / credit intuitions (St George / Rabo), mineral exploitation (half of Force sponsors); the ethics and social responsibility of all can be debated.
But in the end, intellectual or not, this IMHO is where again, the average supporters of the game, and / or team, need give themselves a well-directed uppercut and stop acting like dickheads. At some point shortly after the upper cut you may realise that this game , this site is reliant on companies such as Aquis’s to fund the game, and without them the game will fold.
So, feel free to object as you see fit, but remember, as you criticise a company of which you naively claim to understand their business model as you slander their operations in you uninformed critique, you may also be, In a spectacular public display of stupidity , destroying the game you love by making those who, freely and with choice choose to sponsor our game, for our entertainment at no cost, choose to take their money elsewhere! (FYI- sponsors can read – including forums!)
Have you not considered that when all of the Brumbies supporters and fans go to simply watch a game at the Casio’s night club and choose not to gamble that the business model you naively criticise, gambling based, is not sustainable? Further, considering QLD is dependent on tourism as an industry to sustain their economy is the idiotic commentary and further tourism based developments selective hypocrisy or just a naive rant. Whichever, I have no interest in the politics or individual views here, I simply want to read about rugby and related topics like, the game on at the Casino for those that don’t have Foxtel (which could help expand our supporter base – thank you again sponsor!), or want to join other Brumbies supporters in an organised space for supporter (I believe they will even let you choose if you want to drink or not, and what type of drink!)
You may also wish to consider the opposing view as well. Should you wish to express your views about what is legal, ethical or morally right or wrong, you are in the wrong forum. This is a ruby forum, feel free to move on to your political and social forums, and not piss the rest of off who still like to choose if we want to drink, gamble, visit prostitutes, join a cult or smoke tobacco, hunt, cut down trees, swear, criticise dickheads who are hurting the game we love etc (most of which I do not partake in!).
I would also strongly encourage you to either put up or shut up! So, either accept and welcome Aquis as sponsor of the game for the greater good until the game is financially independent, or feel free to no longer support or watch the game in protest.
Potentially stuck in my own intellectual short comings and naive and simplistic understanding of things, but if someone can tell me the difference between watching a game in the night club area of Canberra casino, and any pub, club or venue with pokies I will happily listen to you split hairs about the difference in the gambling compared to gambling. When you have finished with that explanation, you can tackle the question of betting facilities, to gamble on sports at venues such as the actual grounds.
The choices of each individual will at times clash with the moral or ethical imperatives of a person and will force individual choice. As in Rathbone’s article, he eventually made a choice so as not to compromise a program that was for the benefit of other people. At the end of the day the debate about the ethics of sponsors is a slippery slope for all. Sponsors want something in return for their investment. Be it the pollution and additional traffic congestion from cars (Volvo), or the exploration of people financial resources for profit by banking / credit intuitions (St George / Rabo), mineral exploitation (half of Force sponsors); the ethics and social responsibility of all can be debated.
But in the end, intellectual or not, this IMHO is where again, the average supporters of the game, and / or team, need give themselves a well-directed uppercut and stop acting like dickheads. At some point shortly after the upper cut you may realise that this game , this site is reliant on companies such as Aquis’s to fund the game, and without them the game will fold.
So, feel free to object as you see fit, but remember, as you criticise a company of which you naively claim to understand their business model as you slander their operations in you uninformed critique, you may also be, In a spectacular public display of stupidity , destroying the game you love by making those who, freely and with choice choose to sponsor our game, for our entertainment at no cost, choose to take their money elsewhere! (FYI- sponsors can read – including forums!)
Have you not considered that when all of the Brumbies supporters and fans go to simply watch a game at the Casio’s night club and choose not to gamble that the business model you naively criticise, gambling based, is not sustainable? Further, considering QLD is dependent on tourism as an industry to sustain their economy is the idiotic commentary and further tourism based developments selective hypocrisy or just a naive rant. Whichever, I have no interest in the politics or individual views here, I simply want to read about rugby and related topics like, the game on at the Casino for those that don’t have Foxtel (which could help expand our supporter base – thank you again sponsor!), or want to join other Brumbies supporters in an organised space for supporter (I believe they will even let you choose if you want to drink or not, and what type of drink!)
You may also wish to consider the opposing view as well. Should you wish to express your views about what is legal, ethical or morally right or wrong, you are in the wrong forum. This is a ruby forum, feel free to move on to your political and social forums, and not piss the rest of off who still like to choose if we want to drink, gamble, visit prostitutes, join a cult or smoke tobacco, hunt, cut down trees, swear, criticise dickheads who are hurting the game we love etc (most of which I do not partake in!).
I would also strongly encourage you to either put up or shut up! So, either accept and welcome Aquis as sponsor of the game for the greater good until the game is financially independent, or feel free to no longer support or watch the game in protest.
I have no issues with the Aquis sponsorship and the Aquis branding is not really obviously related to gambling. I also have no issue with adults on an internet forum discussing the odds of the games and I personally enjoy a punt.
I have a major issue with the NRL promoting live odds on the TV which is clearly watched by many children and does form habits and attitudes that will impact them as adults. When you have young children quoting the odds of matches it is a significant issue in my view.
To the contrary, the Aquis sponsorship has been handled really well and if you didn't know better you wouldn't even know what it was promoting.
I have a major issue with the NRL promoting live odds on the TV which is clearly watched by many children and does form habits and attitudes that will impact them as adults. When you have young children quoting the odds of matches it is a significant issue in my view.
To the contrary, the Aquis sponsorship has been handled really well and if you didn't know better you wouldn't even know what it was promoting.
Ash
Michael Lynagh (62)
There will always be companies that, morally and ethically, are not held in high esteem. Gambling, big tobacco, alcochol, and so on will always be such companies.
You can have a massive diatribe, but that fact is not changed. I know people who refuse to work for Aristocrat, for example, for those reasons.
Well done to the Brumbies on getting a massive major sponsor. It's great news for them, and even better news it's a significant sponsorship. And yes, the Brumbies have handled it well.
However, some supporters will see as morally not being the best choice. That's just the way it is.
Sure, this is a rugby forum, but we discuss everything to do with our rugby teams, from backroom staff to, yes, sponsorships.
I'm sure if the Brumbies had another massive sponsor they would have looked past Aquis, but unfortunately they didn't. Overall, not the best sponsor ethically, but certainly fantastic for the Brumbies financial health.
You can have a massive diatribe, but that fact is not changed. I know people who refuse to work for Aristocrat, for example, for those reasons.
Well done to the Brumbies on getting a massive major sponsor. It's great news for them, and even better news it's a significant sponsorship. And yes, the Brumbies have handled it well.
However, some supporters will see as morally not being the best choice. That's just the way it is.
Sure, this is a rugby forum, but we discuss everything to do with our rugby teams, from backroom staff to, yes, sponsorships.
I'm sure if the Brumbies had another massive sponsor they would have looked past Aquis, but unfortunately they didn't. Overall, not the best sponsor ethically, but certainly fantastic for the Brumbies financial health.
T
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Aquis is a hospitality and accommodation company linked to Gambling? That's a funny way of painting it..
Their primary focus in Australia is Casino's, yes they may be involved in integrated resort proposals but they are all proposals based on casinos underwriting the project.
Anyway, people have the right to an opinion, and I don't think anyone was really making a big issue of the topic so I think it's a bit rich attacking people because they morally or ethically object to gambling...
Good on the Brumbies for securing their financial future, it would have been better for the University to continue their major sponsorship but any sponsor is better then no sponsor...
Unless of course it's the greyhound industry, don't get sponsored by them
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Their primary focus in Australia is Casino's, yes they may be involved in integrated resort proposals but they are all proposals based on casinos underwriting the project.
Anyway, people have the right to an opinion, and I don't think anyone was really making a big issue of the topic so I think it's a bit rich attacking people because they morally or ethically object to gambling...
Good on the Brumbies for securing their financial future, it would have been better for the University to continue their major sponsorship but any sponsor is better then no sponsor...
Unless of course it's the greyhound industry, don't get sponsored by them
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Michael Lynagh (62)
Unless of course it's the greyhound industry, don't get sponsored by them
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They're probably not interested in sponsoring a super rugby team, I heard they were chasing the Rabbitohs.
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David Wilson (68)
That must have been a great effort by the Runners. Holloway looks to be a very good player, and probably will be a a regular with the Tahs before too long, especially now if Cliff is injured for any length of time.
Strewthcobber
Andrew Slack (58)
A sport in Australia is going to be undone by gambling sooner or later.
I would rather rugby in general avoided the sector altogether for sponsorship, if only as a risk management strategy.
Having said that, if taking the money is the way the Brumbies stay afloat then I'll hold my nose and accept it.
I would rather rugby in general avoided the sector altogether for sponsorship, if only as a risk management strategy.
Having said that, if taking the money is the way the Brumbies stay afloat then I'll hold my nose and accept it.
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