Reds 2017

[TOCC]

Isaac Lucas may be a bit harder to sign. I've heard the Lucas family are very anti-Reds after Graham et al told Ben his services weren't required.

Perhaps the new admin might be a help.

FB post has Nic Stiles giving Isaac his trophy for Australians Schoolboy Player of the Year for 2016, mending bridges and getting in his ear for the future perhaps.

 

[amirite]

Hmm it's a funny one, understandably there would be a bit of malaise, but that's professional sport.. when Ben Lucas was signed other players missed out, some felt it was due to the Lucas family having greater rugby pedigree, one of those Luke McClean went to Europe and represent Italy dozens of times.. was it the right call? Possibly. but that's the nature of the game, there's limited contract spots and everyone wants an opportunity

Luke McLean is a good player who would've been a handy Super Rugby squad member. Still playing pretty well - but he really shined as a wing/fullback and not the 10 he was originally slated as.

 

[Lindommer]

FB post has Nic Stiles giving Isaac his trophy for Australians Schoolboy Player of the Year for 2016, mending bridges and getting in his ear for the future perhaps.

Or possibly one prominent Terrace rugby player to another?

 

[biggsy]

Spotted Higgers today at Kingsliff hotel today. Look to be having a little welcome home gig with family and friends.
Getting in few beers before heading back to Ballymore.
Happy to have higgers back in Red

 

[upthereds#!]

it was his recovery. got married day before.

 

[upthereds#!]

would love to see a

higs houston holloway timani hoops mcmahon backrow unit for the wallabies squad next year, but i think both of our Reds boys will miss out to fardy and mccalman

 

[amirite]

Higs offers what the Wallabies need if he super rugby form is good. He's a good carrier who offers a lot in the lineout. He's excellent at 2.

Houston doesn't, but Super Rugby will tell the tale. He'll need to be in excellent form to crack the squad (let alone team). A non-jumping, good carrier, with a bellow average work rate - we just aren't screaming for that guy.

 

[Brumby Runner]

But surely Houston has already overtaken McCalman in Wallabies' contention. Has been in the squad and played for the Wallabies more recently than Ben McC.

I'd say the next big thing in the back row from WA will be Ross Haylett-Petty. Still very young but a big lump of a lad with very good mobility. Seems to have a big motor and definitely has an impact.

 

[biggsy]

Higs offers what the Wallabies need if he super rugby form is good. He's a good carrier who offers a lot in the lineout.

I agree about higs, but it would be hard for him to crack the wallabies with sublime form Mumm is in. Mumm even benches Fardy due to form.

 

[upthereds#!]

mumm is really there for his lineout expertise, but higs was a lineout hero when he was here, so has the lineout box well and truly tickedalong with offering more around the park then mumm. His wider keiran read style play is more acceptable in backrow now that arnold, coleman and timani are more then capable of dominating their space in tight (something that simmons, carter, mccalman struggled to do)

 

[Waterboyrugby]

Isaac Lucas may be a bit harder to sign. I've heard the Lucas family are very anti-Reds after Graham et al told Ben his services weren't required.

Haha if that's true that is karma for ya. The best flyhalf prospect coming through QLD schools over the last 3 years (I've seen) and it seems they've burnt that bridge. Morons. The RG effect continues.

 

[amirite]

mumm is really there for his lineout expertise, but higs was a lineout hero when he was here, so has the lineout box well and truly tickedalong with offering more around the park then mumm. His wider keiran read style play is more acceptable in backrow now that arnold, coleman and timani are more then capable of dominating their space in tight (something that simmons, carter, mccalman struggled to do)

Not really, Higgs jumps at 2 generally and Mumm calls and thus jumps further back. Both jumpers but different skill sets.

 

[Happy to Chat]

Haha if that's true that is karma for ya. The best flyhalf prospect coming through QLD schools over the last 3 years (I've seen) and it seems they've burnt that bridge. Morons. The RG effect continues.

Big call to sign up straight from school when you have a string of young hopefuls already in the mix, DP, McIntyre, Mason, Tim Horan, Liam McNamara, Hamish Stewart and Liam Moseley (been injured the last year) with Moseley, Stewart and Horan eligible for u20's 2017 I don't think young Lucas will even get a look for a while.


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[upthereds#!]

Not really, Higgs jumps at 2 generally and Mumm calls and thus jumps further back. Both jumpers but different skill sets.

mumm hasnt been calling, coleman has.

 

[hammertimethere]

Sharpe used to call Higgers one of the worlds best jumpers when they played together. With his athleticism and natural footballing skills Higgers has the highest ceiling of any 8 prospect available to the wallabies from 2017 there is no doubt. Whether his mind (and 30 yr old body) will allow him to show the relentless physicality that Cheika demands from Test backrowers (and rightly so) will determine how his remaining career plays out.

Houston is no better than Timani is at the lineout and probably won't get much better whereas Lopeti will

 

[Waterboyrugby]

Big call to sign up straight from school when you have a string of young hopefuls already in the mix, DP, McIntyre, Mason, Tim Horan, Liam McNamara, Hamish Stewart and Liam Moseley (been injured the last year) with Moseley, Stewart and Horan eligible for u20's 2017 I don't think young Lucas will even get a look for a while.

Yes no point signing straight from school. I did say prospect though. DP is primarily a 12, McIntyre will need a cushion in 2017, Mason will be playing club rugby (in Sydney since he's signed with the Tahs), Tim Horan will remain on the Fox sports panel with occasional appearances in Reds TV comm box (hopefully). Havent seen McNamara play 10 since Colts and the last 3 will all hopefully break into Prems.

 

[Happy to Chat]

Yes no point signing straight from school. I did say prospect though. DP is primarily a 12, McIntyre will need a cushion in 2017, Mason will be playing club rugby (in Sydney since he's signed with the Tahs), Tim Horan will remain on the Fox sports panel with occasional appearances in Reds TV comm box (hopefully). Havent seen McNamara play 10 since Colts and the last 3 will all hopefully break into Prems.

I did mean Alex Horan and just saying that Isaac Lucas may not even make an appearance in u20's in 2017. McNamara played 10 in the Colts finals in 2016 (not too long ago).


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[amirite]

mumm hasnt been calling, coleman has.

They've shared the calling, but they're the skill sets.

Also, Mumm doesn't usually jump at 2 and Higgers does, so?

 

[upthereds#!]

means higgers is better for the wallabies lineout then mumm as he is the best jumper around at 2 and coleman already is caller and further back so why need mumm aswell.

Especially if simmons is on the bench.

 

[upthereds#!]

I did mean Alex Horan and just saying that Isaac Lucas may not even make an appearance in u20's in 2017. McNamara played 10 in the Colts finals in 2016 (not too long ago).


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Will be interesting to see if McNamara sticks with 7s which he has gone to for the upcoming trip.