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Muglair
Alfred Walker (16)
Gagger said:
No Gagger. It doesn't. It was specifically not what the Tribunal found. He accidentally sent one image to DP, not two. The tribunal would not be interested in who authored it, just that KB (Kurtley Beale) sent it. He got a $45k fine for sending the one image twice, I assume additional punishment was in store if he sent both images.
It also does not make sense. Neither does the WS assertion that it was an MMS message which is different to Whatsapp. In the interests of full disclosure I cannot tell you the difference. I am advised that it is possible to "ghost" an MMS text so that it appears to come from another number. Apparently that is also functionality built into Skype so that it can identify a user from a phone number or something like that. Perhaps whatsapp works like that too?
Either way Beale definitely sent the one image twice. He says so and his phone says so. You, Slim and Wayne must have a missing piece you are not telling us about or I am just thick as two short planks.
Either way I am happy to leave the topic here until such time as a technical expert posts some explanations for public consumption.
As an aside I think that is quite important since the witch hunt has started looking for the second texter. Pretty unfair to allow that speculation to occur. Unless you know exactly who authored it and how it got on to DP's phone it is pretty reckless starting to list out individual players.
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Jim Lenehan (48)
The listing out of individual players seems an exercise in who may have had their name redacted as per Beale's statement.
I didn't state it as fact as I agree not all facts are clear as yet.
However, as I have read it, Beale has denied authoring the second image. That is different from sending it.
In telephone billing records, a slideshow will just register one SMS being sent, not tell you what was in it. I believe more than one image can be sent in whatsapp or MMS as a slide show.
Interestingly, I note that no one has actually talked about Beale's phone being submitted, just account records (telephone and Whatsapp). If this is the case, where is his phone? As she was an ARU employee, I would assume DPs phone is with the ARU.
Perhaps the identity of the writer of the second image had been cropped off it before it was sent?
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Stirling Mortlock (74)
So leaving all the technical stuff aside Muglair, what is now your position?
Only yesterday it was that there was clearly a huge body of evidence painted by reliable reporting in SMH and News Ltd that you felt strongly indicated some wrong doing by Patston, which is why people should lay off KB (Kurtley Beale).
Now you seem to be out there to protect the poor second texter.
Just what are you trying to say?
Biffo
Ken Catchpole (46)
An English man and an Irish man are driving head on at night, on a twisty, dark road. Both are driving too fast for the conditions and collide on a sharp bend in the road. To the amazement of both, they are unscathed, though their cars are both destroyed. In celebration of their luck, both agree to put aside their dislike for the other from that moment on. At this point, the Irish man goes to the boot and fetches a 12 year old bottle of Jameson whiskey. He hands the bottle to the English man, who toasts, "May the English and the Irish live together forever, in peace, and harmony.'' The English man then tips the bottle and lashes half of it down. Still flabbergasted over the whole thing, he goes to hand the bottle to the Irish man, who replies: ''No thanks, I'll just wait till the Garda get here!''
Biffo
Ken Catchpole (46)
bloke has a pretty good spell checker if it distinguishes between "hopper" and "hooper" for him.
i wonder can he tell us how we can get such a spell checker?
mjw
Larry Dwyer (12)
So are you suggesting Rugby Mum 2 is male?
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Nathan Sharpe (72)
That would be Rugby-Mum 2
mjw
Larry Dwyer (12)
It's just that I thought you were defending women and you don't recognise one when she posts.
TahDan
Cyril Towers (30)
Just btw - this is how an obscene message should be handled and how long it should take:
http://www.theroar.com.au/2014/10/2...n-fined-50000-ineligible-kangaroos-selection/
It took the NRL less than a week. Open, shut, now piss off Gallen. Meanwhile, we've managed to get to 162 pages talking about Beale.
I know it's not exactly the same, but they sure as shit didn't dick around.
http://www.theroar.com.au/2014/10/2...n-fined-50000-ineligible-kangaroos-selection/
It took the NRL less than a week. Open, shut, now piss off Gallen. Meanwhile, we've managed to get to 162 pages talking about Beale.
I know it's not exactly the same, but they sure as shit didn't dick around.
Biffo
Ken Catchpole (46)
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Peter Johnson (47)
I suppose we could ask the simple questions like the fact that the whatsapp is designed to transmit via the web, not like sms or mms. There is no cost (as its part of your data) so there is no cost log.
So I suppose we could just ask a simple question of why do forensics on the phone as when you install whatsapp it uploads you whole phone book and logs every use of the app? The data is not on the phone, rather on the web.
So, as it by design links to facebook, I would assume an image could be authored on facebook, and sent / or access it from the authors phone to be sent via a third party app, which depending on the app, may or may or may not show on the phone.
Just like deleting the history in your browser I suppose, or un-installing and re-installing an app, these action could explain why there is no trail on a phone.
Scoey
Tony Shaw (54)
I don't think you'll get many arguing with you as I'm sure just about everyone would've preferred that's how KB (Kurtley Beale)'s incident was dealt with too.
You are right that they're not exactly the same also but I'm pretty confident that had Beale tweeted his messaging instead of texting, then I think the outcome would've been the same as for Gallen.
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